Thread: Building Salisbury

Originally Posted by Rangier Rover

How did you break a H260. They are truck like I was close to slipping an easy locker into my 24 spline. I think it would have been a big mistake. I am only going to be running 285/75X16s. Wont be as hard on things as 35s or bigger.

Tony

Tony - for the tyre size you are running I don't think you could ever break MD or similar 24spl axles. Just buy the locker of your choice and if/when the stock axles break buy some upgrades.

For someone like Matt though who is running 35s though, I would at least fit 30Spl axles though.

Bear in mind - 24spl axles and locker are about the same price as 30spl. However there is a $1k jump to go to 35spl, as you need to change stub axles and bearings.


FYI, Here are some specs I posted ages ago on Pirate4x4

DANA 60
Ring gear - 9.75"
Pinion Diameter - 1.626"
Pinion Splines - 29
Ring gear bolts - 12x0.5"
Tooth width - 1.437"
Ratios available - 3.54:1 - 7.17:1
Axle splines available:
1.7" 40 spline (not stock - all others from factory)
1.5" 35 spline
1.31" 30spline
1.31" 16 spline
NB - Sals is basically the same spec except for 1.24" 24spl axles.

Diff specs - NISSAN H260
Ring gear - 10.25"
Pinion Diameter -
Pinion Splines -
Ring gear bolts -
Tooth width -
Ratios available - 3.5:1 - 4.88:1 ?
Axle splines available - see below

Diff specs - NISSAN H230
Ring gear - 9.2"
Pinion Diameter -
Pinion Splines -
Ring gear bolts -
Tooth width -
Ratios available - 3.5:1 - 4.88:1 ?
Axle splines available - see below

ALL rear axles SEMI FLOATING ?
GQ Patrol 88-98 cab chassis rear 1.51" 37spline
GQ Patrol 88-98 front 1.26" 31spline
GQ Patrol 88-98 rear 1.31" 33spline
GU Patrol 98 on diesels rear 1.51" 37spline
GU Patrol 98 on front 1.26" 31spline
GU Patrol 98 on rear 1.31" 33spline

IMHO, a 35spl Sals would be preferable to an H260, as it is FF, and the overall package would be stronger.

Originally Posted by isuzurover

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IMHO, a 35spl Sals would be preferable to an H260, as it is FF, and the overall package would be stronger.

Sorry for dropping in on the end of this thread.

If you go to 35sp Dana 60 are you not trading strength in the axle for weakness in the hub when you machine it out by 0.16"?

Or am I missing something here?

Diana

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Sorry for dropping in on the end of this thread.

If you go to 35sp Dana 60 are you not trading strength in the axle for weakness in the hub when you machine it out by 0.16"?

Or am I missing something here?

Diana

NO, not at all (I assume you meant stub axle not hub?). You cannot machine the Sals stub axle out by that much, so you need to swap them for Jacmac billet (4340?) stub axles which run slimline bearings. IRC some slight hub machining is needed, but there is plenty of meat there - Series landies run MUCH larger inner bearings than coillers.

Originally Posted by isuzurover

NO, not at all (I assume you meant stub axle not hub?). You cannot machine the Sals stub axle out by that much, so you need to swap them for Jacmac billet (4340?) stub axles which run slimline bearings. IRC some slight hub machining is needed, but there is plenty of meat there - Series landies run MUCH larger inner bearings than coillers.

Yes I meant stub axles.

When you say "Slimline bearings" are you talking about the bearings on Ford vehicles which are often used in making trailers? If the answer is yes, then they are only rated at 1450Kg per axle and that will reduce the loads that can be carried in your coiler won't it?

Diana

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Yes I meant stub axles.

When you say "Slimline bearings" are you talking about the bearings on Ford vehicles which are often used in making trailers? If the answer is yes, then they are only rated at 1450Kg per axle and that will reduce the loads that can be carried in your coiler won't it?

Diana

I am not sure which bearings you mean, but I am sure that ford trailer bearings could never fit over the monster 35-spline stub axles.

Jacmac could give you the PNs. I am sure the rating would be more than high enough. People have fitted them to 130s with no issues.

Some great info here (and pics of the 35 spline axles and stub axles):
[ame=http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php't=260121]Tube buggy - Pirate4x4.Com Bulletin Board[/ame]

Originally Posted by isuzurover

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IMHO, a 35spl Sals would be preferable to an H260, as it is FF, and the overall package would be stronger.

Ben, the H260 as used in the rear of GU leaf sprung Patrols is a full floater too.

Originally Posted by rick130

Ben, the H260 as used in the rear of GU leaf sprung Patrols is a full floater too.

Ah - OK. Cheers Rick. Is it also 37-spline?