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    As said, bugger carrying a tonne of petrol on board. May even be illegal???

    When we did the CSR, there were 7-10 burnt out 4x4s along the track. All of them were petrol.

    One of our party was in a petrol/V8 RRC. I inspected his RRC for him before he bought it back in the late 90's. At the end of the canning he said "why didn't you tell me to buy a diesel instead!"

    I would never do long distance touring in a petrol after my experiences. Btw - if you run out of diesel you can run on your cooking oil

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    Btw - if you run out of diesel you can run on your cooking oil

    Um where is the nearest fish and chip shop on THE canning


    Andy, shoot 123Rover50 a PM, we were talking about your rig at our last BBQ, he has a FC 2B camper 6x6 diesel conversion

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    Stopping for a feed?

    Quote Originally Posted by The ho har's View Post
    Um where is the nearest fish and chip shop on the canning
    Canning Vale Fish & Chips, Canning Vale WA 6155 - Take Aways - TrueLocal

    They tell me they do a nice feed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinklearthur View Post

    hahaha smarty pants, thats like saying there is a terrific fish and chip shop in Trail harbour

    you know I ment the CSR

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    At 40/100kms to do 2000kms you would burn approx 800ltrs of petrol.

    800ltrs of petrol will weigh 568.8kg + 36kg for the 4 drums to put it in (9kg each approx) meaning that your carrying 604.8kg fuel and drums.

    Thats a little over half a tonne with a 1.5 tonne truck not including your ambulance body, any gear you are going to carry etc etc.

    You would be better off with a 300Tdi Deefa tray, just as uncomfortable as a 101 but with power steer and air con and still take a tonne of gear.

    Lotza Landys had one for sale cheap on Ebay I believe.

    If you were to do long outback trips then go diesel, a 300Tdi will push it along at 80k's but not much more with the 5.5's and the low geared TC and there are plenty of power up options or maybe go the high tech route and go for a TD5.

    Andrew from LRA seems to know his way around fitting them in all things LR nowdays so maybe an Email to him may help.

    A 4BD1T would be perfect but it would be a tight fit hight wise I think but otherwise generally fits anywhere a Rover V8 will fit and a 6BD1T would be even better if you could allow the length which I'm not sure of in a 101.

    Good luck though, sounds like a good project and 1 that I would love to do oneday.

    Cheers Casper

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casper View Post
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    You would be better off with a 300Tdi Deefa tray, just as uncomfortable as a 101 but with power steer and air con and still take a tonne of gear.

    Lotza Landys had one for sale cheap on Ebay I believe.

    If you were to do long outback trips then go diesel, a 300Tdi will push it along at 80k's but not much more with the 5.5's and the low geared TC and there are plenty of power up options or maybe go the high tech route and go for a TD5. ...

    ... A 4BD1T would be perfect but it would be a tight fit hight wise I think but otherwise generally fits anywhere a Rover V8 will fit and a 6BD1T would be even better if you could allow the length which I'm not sure of in a 101.

    Good luck though, sounds like a good project and 1 that I would love to do oneday.

    Cheers Casper
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    I've never had a 300TDi and I keep my Landies (never let them go)!

    The problem with the 4BD1T in the 101 is that the exhaust manifold/turbo is over the LHS chassis rail where room is extremely tight and likely to make it very hot for the front seat passenger.

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Que?

    I've never had a 300TDi and I keep my Landies (never let them go)!

    The problem with the 4BD1T in the 101 is that the exhaust manifold/turbo is over the LHS chassis rail where room is extremely tight and likely to make it very hot for the front seat passenger.
    And I can tell you the heat is hot enough now with out adding anything to it , hey aircon would be nice


    Maybe a little fan

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    Do a few 10 hour drives in the 101 and you will know where i am coming from.
    Well as I have a 130 defender no air con and live in temperatures up to 49 degrees (usually driving in an average of 36-40) what would the difference be between that and the 101?
    Also I drive the 130 to Perth and back around 2000km each way and it gets a bit warm, would there be much difference between the two, apart from the 101 should give me a better posture as I have Ankolosing spondylitis in c3&c4 which is exasibated by the defenders roof line and not helped that novacs put a tinted windscreen in which I have to duck below at night grrrr!
    I really don't need a bloody tinted band on the windscreen as I am 6'3" and don't get sun issues (gee thanks auto glazier company)
    I certainly could not drive a disco mk1 anymore.
    So I reckon the 101 will benefit me long term as my condition deteriorates over time (something to look forward to smiley face not)
    Plus I am a happily single male and have cash to invest in a long term project as the 101 has never been registered in Australia I can go nuts, it would be preferable at this stage as once it has been over the pits it all gets very emotional.
    I am of the mindset of a modern injected petrol or a diesel.
    I also want to strip the interior guts and refurb with lighter materials and rebuild the rear body out of ali box section opposed to the steel that is in there already there and then re apply the skin.......anyone looked at Zeus engineering brake discs and pads (rotors to you) not perfect because you have to trim them.


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    Harry is well over 6' also, he finds the 101 alright to drive, the good thing about the defender is it has the flaps in the front, the 101 doesn't and that's where I think you will find it's fault, air rushing in weather hot or cold is good but the 101's downfall OH we are spoilt with the series and defenders vents aren't we soo we are working on getting more air in via alternative vents Will keep you posted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Que?

    I've never had a 300TDi and I keep my Landies (never let them go)!

    The problem with the 4BD1T in the 101 is that the exhaust manifold/turbo is over the LHS chassis rail where room is extremely tight and likely to make it very hot for the front seat passenger.
    My most sencere appologies it's PERENTIE6X6 I don't know how I got that confused.

    Again, my bad.

    Casper

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