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    Yep, you're not going to wear 4th out with the 3.5's in there....

    And, c'mon, the fuel usage on the V8 isn't that horrendous - compared to a 747...
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    The visual difference between a 3.54:1 and a 5.7:1 diff.

    Just thought you'd all like to see the visual difference between a 101's 5.7'1 Salisbury and a 110/130's 3.54:1 Salisbury diff centers. I'll tell you the gearing difference on Sun! The 101 diff is on the right.
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    The 101 crown wheel looks a lot more heavy duty - is the other one going to last.

    15mpg in a 101 isn't so bad - my Jag sports only gives 14mpg.

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    Hopefully. Yeah, the 5.7 is thicker, but the pinion is tiny... The 3.5 pinion is twice the size. Busy day yesterday, the front diff is done. For some reason I thought the CV's would come out thru the swivel housing if I removed the brake backplates.. I was wrong.this lead me to draining and stripping the swivels as well. Glad I did tho as there was a bit of crap in them from where it had been stood at AJ's. All front bearings were in A1 condition, so have been re used. New pinion seal and crush tube went in, and then a bit of time spent setting the diff up. Its back in there as the old one was, with minimal play, and a nice even tooth mesh. Fresh oil in the diff and swivels too, and its all still in there this morning! Rear diff today and the Detroit is going in too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitec View Post
    Any time Mick! More than welcome!! Just deciding wether to get into the Diesel Conversion now or have a few weeks fun first!!!

    Das... Yeah, there was a moment when I'd about had a guts full!! Re 400bhp... That Cummins of mine is good for 400 reliable horses and 1000 silly horses in the right hands..... Thinking 240 will do me just fine!!!! Will go find another vid of Toms Land Rover 110 with the same setup in it.. It boogys!! 👍
    Sure the engine can do 400hp. But where are you going to fit the turbos, air piping and air cleaner big enough for that?

    240 should be easily doable with either stock turbo (depending on exact model) or a replacement turbo the same size as stock. But even the space required for air filtration gets pretty silly pretty quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    Sure the engine can do 400hp. But where are you going to fit the turbos, air piping and air cleaner big enough for that?

    240 should be easily doable with either stock turbo (depending on exact model) or a replacement turbo the same size as stock. But even the space required for air filtration gets pretty silly pretty quickly.
    All will be revealed soon Dougal..the 101's air cleaner is already the size of a dustbin, and is mounted on the left under the battery. The Cummins turbo is mounted on the right under the exhaust manifold with its inlet facing to the rear of the engine. As the engine is being mounted as much to the left as possible, (10mm between timing cover and LH chassis rail), it will give me enough room to run the turbo in its std position. I'll then make a nice 3" shaped pipe that runs around the back of the block under the gear linkage into the turbo. The 101's rad sits inside the chassis and is approx 600mm wide.. The cab alli/tunnel is sheeted to the outside of the chassis rails... This gives me a 95 mm gap each side.. Plenty of room for a 3" intercooler tube each side! I've found a reasonably priced intercooler that's 300mm tall, 75mm deep and 500 wide with 3" outlets each side. It'll sit in front of the rad, just above the steering relay and linkage.

    Anyway. Back to diffs.. Here's a pic of the 3.5 pinion beside the 5.7 pinion. (3.5 is on the left). Garrycol, I see where you are coming from re strength of the 3.5 Sals, but the 'Cummins Crew' in the UK have had no probs, and looking at this pic, I'd have thought the 101's original pinion would be a lot weaker due to the lack of tooth contact... I'll find out soon enough I guess!!
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    Detroit poised to be fitted!

    Ideal time to fit the Detroit too.. This transformed my old 101, and Ron swears by his.. Its all happening today!!
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    And bearing extraction to get to the shims required to set the new center up. The rear will be having new bearings as although they are ok, there's a little more wear marking than I'd like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    Sure the engine can do 400hp. But where are you going to fit the turbos, air piping and air cleaner big enough for that?

    240 should be easily doable with either stock turbo (depending on exact model) or a replacement turbo the same size as stock. But even the space required for air filtration gets pretty silly pretty quickly.
    You don't need to go silly or fit a second turbo on a 6B to get 400HP from it. There are plenty of stock 400HP units out there with very little outward looking difference in the engine. Fuel pump, injectors, pistons, rings and liners are all different though. Can't remember off the top of my head the CPL for them, but I could look it up and get an exact parts listing for each.

    The marine version of the 6B is pushing out around 700HP now, and only has one - quite large - turbo...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat View Post
    You don't need to go silly or fit a second turbo on a 6B to get 400HP from it. There are plenty of stock 400HP units out there with very outward looking difference in the engine. Fuel pump, injectors, pistons, rings and liners are all different though. Can't remember off the top of my head the CPL for them, but I could look it up and get an exact parts listing for each.

    The marine version of the 6B is pushing out around 700HP now, and only has one - quite large - turbo...
    It's the air handling side that gets very big and cumbersome. The HX35 (if Sitec has one) can handle 400hp. But you're talking over 600 cfm (0.3 cumecs of air) and shedding about 32kw of heat through the intercooler.

    The Donaldson G130107 Style B air-filter can do it. It's 330mm diameter, 530mm long (plus 480mm for element removal = 1 metre space required), has a 6" air inlet and 5" connection to the engine. This is what I mean by big and cumbersome.

    For those interested, 400hp at 3,200rpm takes ~30psi boost and produces almost 900Nm at that rpm. A stock (i.e. unopened) 6BT would do it without problems. Fuel loading is ~150cc/1000 shots which should be doable on the VE Pump. A 4BT VE pump can do ~180cc per shot and this is less.
    We're talking a clean tune too.

    If you want to do 400hp at 2,500rpm (i.e. no governor changes) then it starts getting harder on the driveline. ~1130Nm and 172 cc/1000 shots of diesel.
    Boost required is ~31psi which is stil good for the HX35.
    It can still be done on a clean tune. But a tune being sympathetic to the driveline will likely cap torque levels and from there set what rpm you need to deliver your max power.

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