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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitec View Post
    So, I now have two options... Option 1. Move the engine a further 40 mm back and fit the large engine driven fan. This option will ... guarantee good cooling, ...
    Option 2. Move the engine forward 60mm, and try and use a large electric fan ...
    It depends what you want to use it for, but if you intend to do any heavy off-road work or towing, the electric fan will probably be insufficient.

    Davies Craig and Kenlowe both recommend keeping the viscous-coupling-fan for other land Rovers in the above situations,

    Cheers Charlie

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    Decision nearly made.

    Cheers fellas, yeah I was coming to that conclusion. The original truck viscous coupling is huge and was mounted to the crank, but I have a Dodge Ram fan hub and pulley coming from the states so plan to mount the original truck fan direct to that, or the V8 fan. Both are a decent size but fairly slim. Here's a pic of the engine right forwards (option 2) and the gear lever is in the ideal place, but the front RH engine mount will have to be a work of art and involve the exhaust down pipe, the sump well is very close to the front diff flange. Weight placement will also not be so good here. Will follow up later with a pic of option 1.
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    Probably an awful lot easier to move it back and extend the gear linkage.
    On the subject of engine mounts, would it be any easier to use the ones it sat on in the truck (right up the front of the block) possibly making a crossmember to sit them on, or would diff clearance present issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DasLandRoverMan View Post
    Probably an awful lot easier to move it back and extend the gear linkage.
    On the subject of engine mounts, would it be any easier to use the ones it sat on in the truck (right up the front of the block) possibly making a crossmember to sit them on, or would diff clearance present issues?
    I had planned to do exactly that, but on the RH chassis rail exactly where the mount needs to be is the brake bias valve (or at least I think that's what it is).. Either way there's a network of brake pipes that I don't plan to move. There's also the two pressed plates that support the rad there, and I don't want to alter them as they are sturdy and will also be carrying the intercooler. And yes, the diff will cause issues with the engine forward.. With it set back, I've got a better chance of a one piece front prop too. I've played around with the gear lever this afternoon, and ideally that lever mount needs to be almost touching the rad to be in the ideal position.
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    1991 VW Citi Golf Cti (soon to be Tdi)

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    Surely leaving the bracket where it is and extend the lever forward to a comfortable position? The original lever is about half a mile long as it come up through the cover anyways.

    This is getting slightly confusing conversing between the board and facebooks...

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    That whole lever assy is only held on my two M8 bolts, and is all mounted nicely with a swivel ball and gater, so if I was to extend the lever it would resemble the actions of the the original 101 setup! It'll be easy to relocate it and just add 100mm of tube to the link bar.
    1995 Mercedes 1222A 4x4
    1969 (Now know! Thanks Diana!!) Ser 2 Tdi SWB

    1991 VW Citi Golf Cti (soon to be Tdi)

    'When there's smoke, there's plenty of poke!!'
    'The more the smoke, the more the poke!!'

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    Cool

    speak my name and I shall appear...

    When I did my 90 I left the chassis standard as I had a view to fitting a galv one later on... so this means I have the sloped mounts... and yes they REALLY dont like 500kg of Cummins sat upon them... however I will be upgrading to QT Services HD engine mounts when they finally get stock in (been three months now....)

    the issue with engine mounts and downpipe is a common one... my down pipe is close to the mount but turbo position and use of a Dodge manifold (like Ashley and Tom have) does alot to improve this.

    my 90 is the only vehicle ive driven which will reach its geared top speed... I have had it to 3200rpm in fifth... it was only then that the BMW along side me started to pull away haha... (private road yadda yadda yadda)

    as for economy... I cant help but give the throttle a good prod (that noise) and my normal driving style returns me 22mpg (UK) which when compared to the much less powerful tweaked 200Tdi (that I kept blowing up) that returned 18-22mpg (UK) isnt bad at all... when towing my caravan (driving steady) I get 35mpg (UK) ... as for the pulling power I use the landy to move my 5,000kg living van and shunt 7,000kg broken cabover trucks around the farm... dont even drop into Low box.

    Im glad people are inspired by what I have done and im interested to see what they come up with as no-one has the answer. I was going to drop a 6BT into my 101 next... but I have a Scammell and ERF to fix so the 101 will have to get soner or later.

    If I ever get around to doing my 101 i will put emphasis in driving position, prop length/angle and weight balance... in that order.

    Looking forward to your updates Simon... keep me in the loop, any Q's just ask

    Heres some inspiration:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...eature=mh_lolz

    Thanks
    Nick Steggel

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    Quote Originally Posted by nrs91 View Post
    speak my name and I shall appear...

    When I did my 90 I left the chassis standard as I had a view to fitting a galv one later on... so this means I have the sloped mounts... and yes they REALLY dont like 500kg of Cummins sat upon them... however I will be upgrading to QT Services HD engine mounts when they finally get stock in (been three months now....)

    the issue with engine mounts and downpipe is a common one... my down pipe is close to the mount but turbo position and use of a Dodge manifold (like Ashley and Tom have) does alot to improve this.

    my 90 is the only vehicle ive driven which will reach its geared top speed... I have had it to 3200rpm in fifth... it was only then that the BMW along side me started to pull away haha... (private road yadda yadda yadda)

    as for economy... I cant help but give the throttle a good prod (that noise) and my normal driving style returns me 22mpg (UK) which when compared to the much less powerful tweaked 200Tdi (that I kept blowing up) that returned 18-22mpg (UK) isnt bad at all... when towing my caravan (driving steady) I get 35mpg (UK) ... as for the pulling power I use the landy to move my 5,000kg living van and shunt 7,000kg broken cabover trucks around the farm... dont even drop into Low box.

    Im glad people are inspired by what I have done and im interested to see what they come up with as no-one has the answer. I was going to drop a 6BT into my 101 next... but I have a Scammell and ERF to fix so the 101 will have to get soner or later.

    If I ever get around to doing my 101 i will put emphasis in driving position, prop length/angle and weight balance... in that order.

    Looking forward to your updates Simon... keep me in the loop, any Q's just ask

    Heres some inspiration:
    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...eature=mh_lolz

    Thanks
    Nick Steggel
    Hi Nick! Cheers for that! Yes, driving position is something that needs work... Having the gear lever in reach of the driver will be a bonus for sure!! Power steering and an air clutch will add to that. As for the seating, that sort of works for me as Im only a skinny lanky runt, but to do any big changes, you'd have to move the back seat wall back a bit.... Re all the projects.... I was the same over there! Just have the two here... The 101 and SWMBO's Ser 2 Tdi... another thread for you to find! Talk soon fella!!
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    1969 (Now know! Thanks Diana!!) Ser 2 Tdi SWB

    1991 VW Citi Golf Cti (soon to be Tdi)

    'When there's smoke, there's plenty of poke!!'
    'The more the smoke, the more the poke!!'

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    The v8 mounts arts indeed on the wrong angle for diesels, I am working l on a bolt on solution to roughly halve the angle for my isuzu mounts to stop the engine moving vertically as much . But space is limited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    The v8 mounts arts indeed on the wrong angle for diesels, I am working l on a bolt on solution to roughly halve the angle for my isuzu mounts to stop the engine moving vertically as much . But space is limited.
    its not the mount plates that are the issue its the rubber mount style. Look at the QT services HD captive mounts (the engine wont drop out if the mount fails)

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