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    Puma--what can it really tow

    Dare I admit this on an open forum. Having enjoyed our last 3 camping trips in the pouring rain we are seriously considering a full caravan. No canvas whatsoever.
    Although rated to 3500kg our Puma can really feel our 750kg (no brakes so it doesn't weigh anymore) Open roads no problems but put a hill in the way and we slow up considerably. Before anyone says. I do use the gears and don't try climb in 6th.
    What weights are you Puma drivers towing, and how does the Puma handle it.
    At the moment I am considering that 2500kg would probably be the limit.

    Kenley

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    we pulled our Aussie swag no issues what so ever and I think thats over the 750kg...

    it also pulled my discovery on a trailer 80k doing 80kph without breaking a sweat however it did feel the long hill out of picton and I think pulled at around 50 but it was pulling 3 ton. we were very happy with its performance

    Would this make you feel better

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jhuKLrjJLg"]YouTube- Land Rover Defender Towing a 12 Tonne Truck.[/ame]
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    I had forgotten about that video Dullbird, it really is an amazing performance. I would really like to know what the hitch set-up is on the back of the D90.

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    Thanks Lou, Quite impressive, but we've all seen a VW Toureg tow a 747. Seriously though, thats what I thought, will tow anything, just slowly. Not really wanting to slow traffic up to much. But if you were hitting 80 with 3 tonnes thats not to bad. But we do have a lot of hills around and having to do big distances at 50km/h.
    Lack of set up time will compensate for getting there slower. Will the little engine survive extended towing?

    Kenley

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenleyfred View Post
    Thanks Lou, Quite impressive,
    but we've all seen a VW Toureg tow a 747
    . Seriously though, thats what I thought, will tow anything, just slowly. Not really wanting to slow traffic up to much. But if you were hitting 80 with 3 tonnes thats not to bad. But we do have a lot of hills around and having to do big distances at 50km/h.
    Lack of set up time will compensate for getting there slower. Will the little engine survive extended towing?

    Kenley
    yes we have all seen the tourag pull a 747...however it had the equivlant weight of a landrover in the back of concrete to be able to tow that weight...and to have that much weight in the car takes real modification with suspension setup etc....mmmmm not quite so impressive now is it

    Will the little engine survive extended towing?
    This I dont know......but can let you know at the end of next year...
    However defenders have never had any probs extended towing before and this probably apart from the isuzu is their torqueist engine so I don't see what the problem would be

    but like I said we pulled a heavier weight then you back from melbourne and it did it effortlessly
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    From my experience

    a 3.9v8 disco will push back 13.5T worth of articulated trailer. (back of the napkin math says it wont) on flat ground

    the td5 deefer will pull 22T worth of truck and trailer. (back of the napkin math says it might just about do 25)

    The napkin math says the puma should just about do 30t worth the video of a 13t truck is the only thing Ive seen that goes to the limit

    however all of this is totally irrelivent.

    as of about 2002ish you can tow 3.5T. with a stock setup in australia.
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    Unladen our Kimberley Kamper weighs 1.2t. Loaded its up around 1.5t. Add to that the gear in the vehicle as well which was a few hundred kilos more weight and we took that right around Australia last year.

    The best gear on the open road is 5th not 6th when towing and a sensible speed of 80kph. On a good flat section you'll find you will go to 6th and if you push it you can certainly do over 100kph towing. Off road the gearing and anti-stall make it fantastic.

    It will even tow 1.5t with a blown intercooler hose! Though it doesn't do it very fast, especially up hills
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    JohnR pulled half of Redhill with him to Nth Qld and back in his - I'm sure he'll advice it wasn't until Laura that he remembered the trailer was even on!

    PS - run the engine in mate - she'll be apples.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scallops View Post
    PS - run the engine in mate - she'll be apples.
    Yes we did that... we drove it from Port Melbourne to Mooroolbark then to Sunshine and hooked up our Kimberley Kamper and drove it back to Gove. All within 8 days (4500km) from new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dm_td5 View Post
    Yes we did that... we drove it from Port Melbourne to Mooroolbark then to Sunshine and hooked up our Kimberley Kamper and drove it back to Gove. All within 8 days (4500km) from new.
    Yeah - but I reckon an engine runs in for max "breathability" over more than 5 times that mileage though. I reckon fredrick will discover that.
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