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    options for springs

    Hi Guys

    Need new springs on the 110, mainly as the fronts have sagged but also to help the TF +2 shocks i have put in.

    I'm looking for 30-40mm lift. Have a 27kg ally bar on the front and 8mm steel steering guard too. At the rear i have 127l tank, will have drawers shortly and tow a boat with about 200kg nose weight.

    anything on the front will help the ride as the progressive section of the current springs has closed...

    I have 3 options...

    Kings - KRFR-03 at the front and KLRR-05 at the rear decent price available a stones throw away from work.

    Dobinsons - C51-018 at the front and C51-019 at the rear good price again and reasonable postage on top.

    LR Automotive - Reds for front (180 / 16.5) and orange green (320 / 16.8) hear good things about these guys but postage at $88 is a killer..

    Which way do i jump?

    Steve

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    Hi 5teve, I have a set of LRA "pink" front springs that I brought for my last 110, but I can't fit them to my new car due to warranty issued. They kept my old car level with a steel ARB bar and winch on the front. You're welcome to try them and see if they'll do the job for you.

    Cheers,

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    I'm running dobinson C51-017 and C51-019 springs from suspension stuff and I'm happy with them. I do run poly airs in the rear as I tow as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimNZ View Post
    Hi 5teve, I have a set of LRA "pink" front springs that I brought for my last 110, but I can't fit them to my new car due to warranty issued. They kept my old car level with a steel ARB bar and winch on the front. You're welcome to try them and see if they'll do the job for you.

    Cheers,
    Thanks Tim appreciate it. I was trying to get a small lift to match the TF +2 shocks i have to stop them from bottoming out. so was going for new springs all round.. ah.. LRA are Les richmond arent they.. ding.. just got it.. I'll have a look at the rating and let you know.. i'm assuming they would give a bit of lift?

    Quote Originally Posted by isuzu110 View Post
    I'm running dobinson C51-017 and C51-019 springs from suspension stuff and I'm happy with them. I do run poly airs in the rear as I tow as well.
    Thanks for that... they seem to know there stuff there. I was also suggested by Ape suspension to go standard ratings (with a lift) and then consider polyairs at the rear. Thing is with camping gear and the boat attached.. the standard rears hardly sag at all... so i'm not sure i would need the polyairs.. just yet!

    Thanks guys... more opinions welcome!

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5teve View Post
    Hi Guys

    Need new springs on the 110, mainly as the fronts have sagged but also to help the TF +2 shocks i have put in.

    I'm looking for 30-40mm lift. Have a 27kg ally bar on the front and 8mm steel steering guard too. At the rear i have 127l tank, will have drawers shortly and tow a boat with about 200kg nose weight.

    anything on the front will help the ride as the progressive section of the current springs has closed...

    I have 3 options...

    Kings - KRFR-03 at the front and KLRR-05 at the rear decent price available a stones throw away from work.

    Dobinsons - C51-018 at the front and C51-019 at the rear good price again and reasonable postage on top.

    LR Automotive - Reds for front (180 / 16.5) and orange green (320 / 16.8) hear good things about these guys but postage at $88 is a killer..

    Which way do i jump?

    Steve
    Got 130 fronts on mine and very happy with the result. Best way to go imho. I think I will need bags on the rear with draws an slide out fridge kit, I'm shocked at how heavy they are. While on this point, who in Perth is the person to contact re air bags for the rear end.

    Allan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan View Post
    Got 130 fronts on mine and very happy with the result. Best way to go imho. I think I will need bags on the rear with draws an slide out fridge kit, I'm shocked at how heavy they are. While on this point, who in Perth is the person to contact re air bags for the rear end.

    Allan
    Thanks Allan, if i remember right your running standard height arent you? so the 130 fronts will give a standard height for yours with winch and bar etc?

    Regarding the drawers, i'm not expecting them to be too heavy as i'm looking at maybe 12-16mm ply to make them out of.. not a steel framed drawer system. by the time i've filled them with crap i'm sure they will be tho!

    When i was talking to APE suspension he was surprised that the deefer didnt sag much with the boat on.. but mentioned airbags.. and mentioned its best to fit them early on in a new springs life before it gets too settled or you overload it and cause them to sag...so maybe have a word with him... very helpful and takes time to explain things. They are in Landsdale next to bills machinery

    Thanks

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5teve View Post
    Thanks Tim appreciate it. I was trying to get a small lift to match the TF +2 shocks i have to stop them from bottoming out. so was going for new springs all round.. ah.. LRA are Les richmond arent they.. ding.. just got it.. I'll have a look at the rating and let you know.. i'm assuming they would give a bit of lift?

    Steve
    Hi 5teve, yeah, Les Richmond Automotive sorry! Without a winch hanging over the front they should give you about 25mm of lift. If you are going to the trouble of changing the front springs etc have a look at fitting the rubberised shock tower spring mounts from the D2 at the same time (RBC100111).

    Expedition Exchange Incorporated :: Suspension :: Land Rover Genuine Parts Rubberized Shock Tower Securing Ring (RBC100111)

    Cheers,

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    Steve....I have HD land rover springs in the front of the puma...and airbags in the back with the TF's I have also got some extended bump stops for the rear to go on...and I'm looking for a means to tie the springs in...at the moment I think with the HD on the front and the spring rate on the back we wont bottom out as long as we are not silly...however mine is only a touring car not an off road car (as in the rough stuff) my biggest thing is I dont want the springs to dislocate as it gives room for the air bag plates to come out.
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




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    Quote Originally Posted by dullbird View Post
    Steve....I have HD land rover springs in the front of the puma...and airbags in the back with the TF's I have also got some extended bump stops for the rear to go on...and I'm looking for a means to tie the springs in...at the moment I think with the HD on the front and the spring rate on the back we wont bottom out as long as we are not silly...however mine is only a touring car not an off road car (as in the rough stuff) my biggest thing is I dont want the springs to dislocate as it gives room for the air bag plates to come out.
    Hi dullbird, are you running +2 shocks on the rear of your puma? My reason for asking is I am and want to use air bags on an upcoming Kimberly trip. Have you come up with any ideas regarding the spring dislocation?

    Allan

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    Yes I do and no I haven't its not easy with the bags involved purely because the retaining plates for the bags block any sort of spring retention on the top part of thhe spring...

    If I can't come up with an idea for the cape I may have to simply put shorter shocks in..I didn't fit these shocks for there articulation properties i fitted them to try the heavy load capablilties in rougher conditions
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




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