Thread: Puma colours

Black Rock's and the guy from Car groomers likes it two Once a fortnight he gives it a scrub and it comes up looking like new, no matter how dirty it's been.





Oh and no issues with temperature. These Pumas have got Aircon that makes your Freeze!!!!

Cheers,

Thanks for the pics, it looks great.
What wheels and tyres do you run? I'm about to replace my '09 Puma (110 with factory boost alloys + 235/85/16 Gen Grabbers) and yours look bigger (wider at least). Have you made any suspension mods or different offset wheels from the OE ones to make them fit?

Looks cool anyway

Cheers

Chops110

Thanks The Tyres are Mickey Thompson MTZ 265/75R/16 and the rims are 16x8 steels with 1" off set. The suspension has only had a 2" king spring lift which (with all the extra junk) only equates to approx. 30mm lift but still worth it. I have a fair bit of stuff on the way from England at the moment to trick up the suspension a bit

As far as tyre choice goes. I am very happy with the MTZ's but I do run two sets of tyres, Grabbers for the road and the MTZ for trips. My next set of tyres might end up more around the 33" size, just to get a bit more height for the deep ruts off road that all those nasty Toyo and Nissan's make with their 37"'s

Cheers,

I spend hours stressing over what colour my next Defender will be. More time wondering what colour than I do wondering when it will happen!

My current one is the usual white. I'm lazy with washing and it only gets a clean about half a dozen times a year and I know how dirty dark colours can look in the hands of lazy owners like me. I live in WA and white would be a sensible choice but I really feel like a change. I'm not a black car bloke but Ive seen a black 110DC and whoah baby it's traffic stoppingly beautiful.

I think Keswick Green and a white roof...

White won out in the end. The new Fuji White to be precise, and it looks pretty sweet. Photos will be provided when I add it to Members' Rides or Show us your Deefers some time in... March!

One quick question: as I intend adding a bar straight away should I order the HD coils in the front or should I just wait and see how it all goes once I take delivery?

Depends what bar and if you install a winch, plus other stuff (e.g. 2nd battery etc.). I have the RovaCraft tubular winch bar which is very light (much lighter than ARB etc. but with consequently less animal strike protection); plus a [again light] 23kg 12000lb Tigerz11 winch (with plasma rope which is heaps lighter than steel), 2nd battery and some extra bits - and I found that the factory springs sagged immediately. The dual rate factory front springs are apparently 155/215 lbs, and the 155lbs rated section is just too soft.

HOWEVER, when I replaced these with the HD/130 springs, the weight was not really enough for their 225lb spring rate (which is quite a rise on the base rate) so they are much bouncier than the backs (standard), although it has great clearance and sits up nicely.

If you have an ARB bar and a 40kg winch however, I am sure you will find the ride more compliant than mine - there are lots of happy vegemites on this forum with the HDs.

I am about to change out both sets for a new set of White Tiger springs from Graeme Cooper in Sydney (Les Richmond in MEL) with 180lb fronts and 270lbs rears (plus polyairs in the rears). 180lbs seems to my mind to be the right middle ground for lighter frontal set ups like mine, but only time will tell.

What I like about the White Tiger springs is the wide range of rates available - 180lbs should be perfect for my fronts, and the backs which are sagging due to extra tank, compressor, mantec swing away carrier, steel roof rack etc. should do better on the 270lbs than the stock 180lbs, but not too springy when unladen. They also do a 300lb rear spring, which I think may be a little too firm for my needs except when towing and fully laden, but the PolyAirs should give the perfect balance. Also, they make a large range of lengths too.

See this chart: land rover spring specifications

... but there are more sizes and rates not shown when you call LR Automotive or Graeme Cooper for more details.

This table on LRA's site seems to have the full selection: Coil Springs

Am getting the new springs next week and then running down to MEL on them so should know if they are right. I will keep the 225 HD fronts just in case.... !

Hope that helps, Gav

It does help Gav. Thanks heaps.

I'll just be putting an ARB bar on initially. Most of the weight will be back aft. I'll eventually (12-24 mths) fit a winch but I'll probably go with a plasma line due to weight and familiarity (from work). My second battery will be a year off too and will probably go next to the starter.

So, based on what you've said and the fact that replacements aren't too expensive, I might just go with the standard springs and then upgrade once it's all decked out.

Great point JC - I should have mentioned the winch has plasma rope as it saves a heap of weight over steel. Sounds sensible - and feel free to check in with me when you're ready to make the move Gav