Defer 300tdi fuel consumption for CSR

**malleefowl** · 22nd November 2010, 06:28 PM

As there is now no fuel dump available on the Canning Stock Route due to fuel being stolen one has to make provision to carry large quantities of fuel.
It would be helpful if anyone has their fuel consumption figures for Wiluna to the end of the stock route.As always conditions change but particularly interested in figures for Defender 300tdi
Thanks,
Mary

**PAT303** · 22nd November 2010, 07:12 PM

I would go on 14-15ltres to be sure. Pat

**justinc** · 22nd November 2010, 07:13 PM

Hi Mary.

I haven't done this trip yet, know many who have, and the 300Tdi, loaded, standard tyre sizes at appropriate pressures, untweaked fuel pump, driven in an appropriate manner CAN attain 10l/100km on a trip like this. At worst I would aim for 15l/100. It does depend on softness of sand and time of day travelled, speed etc etc etc as I'm sure you know about anyway.

These engines are well suited to remote travel as they are very frugal.

Wish I was going too

.

JC

**PAT303** · 22nd November 2010, 11:40 PM

On remote trips plan for the worst and hope for the best,better to have some left over than not enough.My Tdi uses around 12ltres per 100 on these types of trips. Pat

**zuno555** · 23rd November 2010, 06:21 AM

Forgive my ignorance/limited knowledge here, just did a bit of googling tho..

Isn't there a fuel pump at Kunawarritji Community near well 33? Or was this the old fuel dump site where it was getting stolen?

If not do you have to carry your own fuel for approx 2000kms? 250ltrs odd? Even with a long range fuel tank you would still need 5 or 6 jerry cans... Ouch, lots of weight and waste of storage!

My 6000kms simpson desert trip I averaged just under 13l/100, Disco 300tdi Auto on 33's with roofracks, fully loaded. Across the simpson itself I used 17l/100. A manual defender plus smaller tyres 31-32" would use a bit less fuel, more like Pats usage.

Cheers.

**Lightweight** · 23rd November 2010, 11:59 AM

I know this isn't exactly what you are after, but i did the Simpson in a 300Tdi fully loaded, with roof racks, 33" Tyres and got 13L/100k, and a lot of that was low range.

**PAT303** · 23rd November 2010, 03:59 PM

The community does sell fuel,the last I heard it was $2.50 for cash,$3.50 for credit.There is some rumours they were stealing the fuel and then selling it back to it's rightfull owners when they had to stop. Pat

**malleefowl** · 23rd November 2010, 05:51 PM

Thanks for the replies.
Have also done the Simpson and towed a 13'van in 1000k's of travel oz wide .
On offroad outback trips 12/100 usual just wanted to hear others experience and build in a safety factor.have a 130 litre tank which I know can give me 900 k's under hard work conditions.Therefore need fuel for at least to be safe 1500k,s ie another 60/80 litres.
Jerry cans? or extra tank?
Jerrys would have to be on rear pass floor area.
All suggestions appreciated.
Thanks ,
Mary

**C H T** · 23rd November 2010, 06:15 PM

Mary

We do lot of remote area travel - i would allow for 17lts per 100ks so as to give yourself a healthy margin for rain, detours etc (on a recent trip to the Simpson we probably travelled over hundred ks detouring around water. On the trip consumption was considerably higher than usual because of mud etc) We carry all our spare fuel in jerry cans (ex military steel) and find them most convenient.

PM me if you would like further information

C H T

**Michael2** · 27th November 2010, 04:35 PM

I'd be inclined to use the trip as an excuse for a long range tank. More fuel, less refuelling (risk of spilt fuel, smelly hands & clothes etc), lower centre of gravity.

If you have a 130 litre tank, can you still fit the pony tank in the RHS rear quarter panel? that will give you another 30-35 litres. Then a RHS belly tank with 70 litres, counter balanced by a stainless 50 litre water tank on the LHS (smaller due to battery box).

As for jerry cans, I've used the Rheem ex-army ones in the past, but now I only use the plastic ones. They don't rub abrasively as much, or make rattling noise, are easier to repair, and don't corrode internally leaving you flaky bits of debris in your fuel.

If you fit a 50 litre cargo barrier water tank and a 45 litre LHS rear quater panel water tank, then you can use both sub tanks for fuel, instead of one for water.

I've got a 150 litre LR Tank (tank & RHS pony tank), and the two afore mentioned plastic water tanks (total 95 litres). If I were doing (when I do) the CSR, I would seriously consider the sub tanks (about $1,000ea).

Once you price the tanks, deduct the price of the number of jerry cans you would have to buy, and the jerry can brackets you'd have to fabricate / buy. Then factor that you can buy cheaper (and often cleaner) fuel in major centres, even if you must top up in remote areas. So there's an ongoing price saving there too. Another idea with sub tanks would be to only fill the same tank in remote locations, so that all the other tanks are either filled in major centres, or topped up from that tank through your own in-line filter. That way, should you get dirty fuel, you can isolate it to one tank.

Another cheaper option is to purchase a fuel bladder for the trip. When I was looking into options for the Simpson trip in 2006, a company called Yana, who traded on ebay had the best priced fuel bladders I could find. A web search will find them, but their website is not responding.

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