Thread: Puma recovery points

Originally Posted by miky

I have a LRA tow bar on my 2010 Puma station wagon and I feel happy to use it for recovery purposes.

I agree 110% and may use the same setup as soon as my new defender arrives. My point however (if anyone gets it) is that you are exactly correct - it is a **feeling** and as VladTepes states a **preference** but it isn't substantiated by a relevant and valid recovery rating.

Originally Posted by VladTepes

I absolutely prefer a proerklyu rated one that goes into teh Hayman Reese tow hitch.

Again, I agree with you but what's your Hayman Reese tow hitch rated at? Sure, it may be rated at 3,500Kg for towing, but what's it rated at for recovery? This is rhetorical of course because there is no technically valid answer!

I have access to the Australian Standards and had a look at those that relate to towbars. It involves all sorts of dynamic loadings expected to be exerted under towing conditions applied to the towbar assembly on a rig.

There is no way that any company would certify any other capability to its product. That is not to say that a recovery won't break it it's just that they don't know...too many variables.

I'd trust the tow bar or any other attachment only so far...and how far is that...I don't know and nor does anyone else.

BTW I have a LR Tow Bar and a hitch block.

Personally I think the standard tow bar regardless of brand will suffice if it looks relatively heavy duty.
My feeling on LR stamping for "towing purposes only" reside in exactly what one-iota is saying. The variables are so many to suggest it a designated recovery point is too open.
People have been yanking other cars out of bogs for decades with tow bars, I have never heard of one being ripped off a car. I have seen some pretty bent flimsy looking ones on Hiluxs' but thats about it.

Originally Posted by newhue

Personally I think the standard tow bar regardless of brand will suffice if it looks relatively heavy duty.
My feeling on LR stamping for "towing purposes only" reside in exactly what one-iota is saying. The variables are so many to suggest it a designated recovery point is too open.
People have been yanking other cars out of bogs for decades with tow bars, I have never heard of one being ripped off a car. I have seen some pretty bent flimsy looking ones on Hiluxs' but thats about it.

Very valid point and I agree.....in fact have been doing it that way myself for a few of those decades.

The same can not be said for usiong the bullbar being used as a recovery point and there have been bad accidents as a result of that but solid anchoring to the chassis has always worked for me.

Anyone know what size and threads the rear bolts holes are?

Looks close to the top 4 being 12mm and the bottom 2 being 16mm but they don't quite feel right. 12mm feels a touch loose and the 16mm feels a bit tight. Makes me suspect they might be imperial.

Can anyone save me looking like a dill at the local fastener place!

I have posted more pics of this in my build thread in Members Rides but thoguht it was appropiate to conclude this thread as well.

I decided to make my own rear recovery point based on the South African design I found on the net.

I just ordered the attached from MR Automotive for the front. (I tried ARB, OL, and Rovercraft first.)

For the back I purchased a Bushranger recovery point which fits in a standard square tow bar from ARB on Saturday.

Thanks for all the info on this site.

Beckford.

Originally Posted by Beckford

I just ordered the attached from MR Automotive for the front. (I tried ARB, OL, and Rovercraft first.)

For the back I purchased a Bushranger recovery point which fits in a standard square tow bar from ARB on Saturday.

Thanks for all the info on this site.

Beckford.

Good choice.
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Supplied and fitted earlier this year by MR Automotive.