What is actual wheelbase of 110"?

About 40 years ago (or maybe more), I read a road test of some sort of Jeep imported from America. The road tester complained bitterly that the Jeep was almost impossible to keep on the road because although it was RHD, it was set up to cope with the camber of the road when driven on the right hand side of the road.

I'm not sure whether this is related in any way to the topic that this thread has drifted onto or whether it is just an interesting piece of trivia. I'm hoping someone will explain if it is relevant. :)

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Originally Posted by vnx205

About 40 years ago (or maybe more), I read a road test of some sort of Jeep imported from America. The road tester complained bitterly that the Jeep was almost impossible to keep on the road because although it was RHD, it was set up to cope with the camber of the road when driven on the right hand side of the road.
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Mack and Kenworth trucks had similar problems, the front beam axles were set for LHD operation and on RHD cambered Australian roads they used to scrub out tyres on one side. There was a roaring trade done by a truck alignment centre at Narrellan NSW where they used to bend the axle to correct the camber.

Not sure it would account for RVR110's MY11 Defender which is 109 1/4" wheelbase on the LHS and 110 1/8" wheelbase on the RHS though. (addit: It may be a stupid question but were the wheels straight ahead, not turned slightly left? Perhaps an average of measurements with the wheels turned each way are needed.)

Were still waiting for the Land Rover Engineer to explain the issue for us! :D

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Not sure it would account for RVR110's MY11 Defender which is 109 1/4" wheelbase on the LHS and 110 1/8" wheelbase on the RHS though.

Were still waiting for the Land Rover Engineer to explain the issue for us! :D

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Oh goody is a LandRover engineer coming on here to answer our criticisms of his handiwork?He'll need a tough hide to withstand all the brickbats that I would like to throw at him.:)
wagoo.

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Originally Posted by wagoo

Oh goody is a LandRover engineer coming on here to answer our critisisms of his handiwork?He'll need a tough hide to withstand all the brickbats that I would like to throw at him.:)
wagoo.

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between you and me I doubt he will live long enough to answer them all :D

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Originally Posted by wagoo

If a Landrover has a natural tendency to wander to the RHS of the road and everything including wheel alignment is in good order, then swivel balls with slotted bolt holes, originally developed to correct castor angle on vehicles with lifted suspensions can also be used to compensate for road camber that is designed into Australian roads.
When I built my Dana/Salisbury front axle assy way back when, I gave the RHS(drivers side) 4 degrees castor and the left side the standard 3 degrees.
Did i do it ar$e about?:( The truck tracked pretty well though, particularly once I removed both Detroit Lockers. But that comment is probably more relevant to the Detroit locker thread elsewhere:)
Wagoo.

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Yep, I'd just use slotted swivels to achieve it and IMO the greater castor needs to be on the LHS wheel.
It's what i was going to do anyway but I'm just too lazy :angel:

(castor increases the steering's self centreing action, as well as increasing camber in turns, ie. the more the wheel turns negative camber increases. We used to use up to 9* on race cars, if a driver could cope with the weight of the steering ;) )

Interestingly Patrols have the same problem and the fix is an eccentric castor bush in the LHS top swivel bearing to bring camber back to about 0* (they run positive camber :rolleyes: ) and increase the castor.
It helped our Patrol immensely and also pretty much eliminated front tyre scuffing.
I reckon it needs a touch more but I always came from the school of thought if a little is a good a bucket load is better :lol2:

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Originally Posted by wagoo

Oh goody is a LandRover engineer coming on here to answer our criticisms of his handiwork?He'll need a tough hide to withstand all the brickbats that I would like to throw at him.:)
wagoo.

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A bloke came on here a few years back asking for feedback.

It was ascertained he was genuine so we all joined in.

We all threw so much crap at him, in the nicest possible way, concerning all our perceived engineering shortcomings I don't think the poor fella came back :lol2:

the wheel base of the 110 is longer than the old 109's. i saw a 200tdi that had been made into a truck cab like mine, but he'd used a series 3 body, you could see the rear wheels were not central in the rear guards, looked a bit dicky!

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Originally Posted by barney

the wheel base of the 110 is longer than the old 109's. i saw a 200tdi that had been made into a truck cab like mine, but he'd used a series 3 body, you could see the rear wheels were not central in the rear guards, looked a bit dicky!

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Not only is the wheelbase longer, but both front and rear axles are further back compared to the Series Landrovers.

John

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Originally Posted by barney

the wheel base of the 110 is longer than the old 109's. i saw a 200tdi that had been made into a truck cab like mine, but he'd used a series 3 body, you could see the rear wheels were not central in the rear guards, looked a bit dicky!

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Series II/III landies have the rear wheel too far forward in the rear guard. I have always thought they should either have a 1" longer wheelbase, or the rear guard cutout moved forward.

Whoa!! Just went out to measure my 2007 110, and it is way longer on the drivers side:

Drivers side: 110.5"
Passenger side: 109.0"

That is 1.5" difference :eek:

Edit: Sitting on a level concrete pad, wheels straight ahead...