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  1. 15th February 2011, 12:31 PM #1
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    Save me from the dark side!!!!

    As many of you may know, in a couple of months l may well be in the position to purchase a defender. At this stage it will be a Puma, 07 onwards.

    I have a burning love for the defender but after three years with my D1 which didn’t end nicely, my resolve has been tested and l must be honest when l say, I am considering other vehicles in the time I have to procrastinate....

    The defender will suit best for my requirements to set up a vehicle for long extended travel with the family, but with quotes like

    My vehicle is going OK at the moment - but after 3 years of ownership, the vehicle hardly inspires confidence.
    In my favor, as everything bar the windscreen has been changed under the original warranty, I should be OK!
    Yeah - mine goes to the dealer every 8 weeks so I'm all good there too. [IMG]file:///C:/Users/owner/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG](I have had an annual LR corrosion inspection done).

    My air-con will only blow cold for about 30mins then it starts to loose coldness. iv'e taken it to the dealer 3 times and they seem to be at a loss
    The defender is hardly inspirering confidence in spending @50k at the moment...thank god l don’t have the money at hand to go through with the purchase because at the moment it would be purely based on my adoration and not common sense.
    As they say “Common sense is not always common” what kind of advice could owners of the Puma bestowal on me to keep faith in my decision and not to be ensnared to purchasing a vehicle l know in my heart of hearts won’t be passionate about.
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  2. 15th February 2011, 12:47 PM #2
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    go buy a jeep... they are cheap as chips right now



    you feel better now?

    no ?

    unrequited love can suck

    when you buy a new defender you get three years of warranty time to get it sorted.

    that is the way it seems to be.

    if you don't think you could cope with that sort of thing then you need to buy something else. eg a used d3 or change to another brand and pray you get a good one.

    from what i have seen and heard, when you buy a defender, you should bank on it being a bonding experience

    same can be said for a couple of other brands at the moment as well according to some of the feedback i have been hearing so sounds like it could be a fun experience however way you decide to go.
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  3. 15th February 2011, 02:23 PM #3
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    Looked at Jeeps the otehr day. Rubbishy yank over-proced (for what you get) rubbish. The Grand Cherokke is only available (currently) in petrol with fuel consumption of 16l / 100kms. Yeah thats right. Almost as bad as my 1994 V8 Range Rover.

    The Wrangler was "OK" but for the ACRES of bloody plastic that is the front bumper (the damn thing is like a cow cathcer on a steam train) and the guards. They'd be a fun beachcar but the interior space is less useful than in a LR I reckon.

    Went away less than impressed.

    I;ve been looking at small SUV's so can't comment on the bigger ones - except to say that you won't get anything else Defender sized for Defender $.
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  4. 15th February 2011, 02:40 PM #4
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    Cucinadio,

    I've had similar concerns, and can admit to quite some trepidation about what I may have gotten myself into (new Defender has landed and I take delivery soon), but I take comfort in the belief that this forum attracts certain people and that many more are out enjoying themselves in trouble-free vehicles. People will always talk more freely about negatives than positives. Those with problems have time to write on here about them, and those without are grinning away and getting on with life.

    I might be kidding myself but it's all I've got.
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    Sorry mate I can't save you from the darkside because I'm already there.

    Having been there for two an a half years I wouldn't know what else I'd do...the choice on the other side isn't exactly inspiring.

    Inspite of the bad press (see red quotes) my Defender isn't that bad.
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    I had my Puma for a 4 days an love her to bits. Not sure about the problems, non yet! Some of the finish is not perfect but that's what I love. It's got character. I love the shape, I love the engine, I love the simplistic of the vehicle. Life is to busy and hectic these days and when I get in my Defender, and it's always windows down, l smile and life seems easier. My 2 cents. Of course if I have lots and lots of problems with her, yes it willdrive me nuts. However, you always here more about bad things than good things, it's just the way humans are. We should all be happy with being fkn healthy and living in the greatest country in the world. Go with the one that you really want. Life is too short.

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    The other good advice out there is to do a lot of tyre kicking. There's good & bad ones out there & driving them, climbing under & going over them is still the best way of sorting the good from the bad. I'm happy with my new 90, it feels sound & drives well. Good luck!
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    if i was in a position to buy a new defender i would also be comparing it to a 78? series cruiser, as the 78 would be similar in size and layout as the fender
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeds View Post
    if i was in a position to buy a new defender i would also be comparing it to a 78? series cruiser, as the 78 would be similar in size and layout as the fender
    That is one of the options getting in the way mate.... 76 tho, at this stage the only thing it has going for it is the V8 the rest just doesn't compare... but it is still in the way in the procrastination stakes
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  10. 15th February 2011, 06:37 PM #10
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    If you like/love a vehicle you will take the time and effort to look after it. You will also forgive it’s misgivings more easily. (All vehicle have their problems)
    You want more ‘courage in your convictions’? Get onto the Patrol, Landcruiser, Jeep Forum pages and just see for yourself what people are going through with their vehicles. I think you’ll find they’re pretty much the same as what we have here.
    I went through the same thing 4 years ago before deciding on a Defender, know what your thinking.
    PS. Jeep and H3, towing capacity 1.3tons……………
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