Reply With Quoteit will be interesting to hear what the service agent has to say about the "proper job"
Master
SupporterI'm the maddest man alive right now.
I've spent a few hour over the last two weeks installing a Mad Man EMS2 system - I made quite a good job of it. I'm really pleased with the fit in the dash I and even re-located the fuel gauge neatly.
Any way I finally got round to having a garage tap the exhaust manifold to locate the EGT Pyrometer - I don't have any tapps and wasn't too confident about drilling into the casting, and also install the oil pressure sender while they were at it. I specifically asked them - can you do it properly? 'oh year we've done loads of them'. So...
Picked it up this evening and drove it home. To my horror there had been oil ****ing out of the engine on the way home. An inspection revealed that it was the turbo feed - idiots hadn't tightened it up properly. So I checked all the fitting on the turbo to make sure that there weren't more cock ups. I think I've got away with it because the oil level is about minimum on the stick - could've been a lot worse though and I don't like to think about what may have happened to the oil starved turbo. The Pyrometer also wobbles in the hole they badly tapped and covered up with a load of (now cindered) locktite (or some other gunk) - such a crap job I'm surprised the bloke who did it can sleep at night - I don't understand how anyone can be so useless. Should've done the job myself.
I'm one Mad Man now I tell you! And there going to feel that when I get down there tomorrow morning for my money back. Idiots.
Anyway the point of the post, other than never ever, ever consider taking your landy to ******* (landrover service center), the EMS 2 has alarm functions for the sensors - what would people suggest setting these at?
Oil pressure, EGT, coolant temp and transfere box temp - what's normal - or rather abnormal or more importantly critical for a TD5 defender. Mine's running with no EGR, a BD chip and larger intercooler - what sort of readings should be telling me to ease off a bit?
Any suggestions from experience gladly received.
I'm going back to being mad now.
Last edited by p38arover; 17th February 2011 at 10:32 PM. Reason: Removed name and shame and swearing
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it will be interesting to hear what the service agent has to say about the "proper job"
Super Moderator
SupporterThe two pyrometer thermocouple probes I have installed have had a tapered fitting requiring a special tap to do a tapered thread. They may have used a straight tap. This'd lead to a sloppy fitting. It took me a few hours to track down a tool shop that stocked the right thread and taper.Originally Posted by mools
Hope you sort it.
Moderator
Hey Windsock can you list the thread brand and model/serial number. May be worth putting in the good oil.
Cheers
CraigE
2011 Discovery 4 TDV6
2009 DRZ400E Suzuki
1956 & 1961 P4 Rover (project)
1976 SS Torana (project - all cash donations or parts accepted)
2003 WK Holden Statesman
Departed
2000 Defender Extreme: Shrek (but only to son)
84 RR (Gone) 97 Tdi Disco (Gone)
98 Ducati 900SS Gone & Missed
Facta Non Verba
Master
SupporterWell,
showed the service manager the problems. I made the point of how close I (he) was to a completely ruined engine and that if I did my job like his staff do theirs people would die and I'd get the sack - he was very emmbarrased as he should be - I hope he sacks the guy who did it but I can bet he wont.
A new manifold is being fitted as he agreed they'd properly ruined mine, they'll put in the rest of the oil and check over the work - not that will stop me having to check it again.
He agreed I shouldn't have to pay for it but supprisingly (since I already have) he won't give me a refund - says he can't but will give me a credit note (like I'll ever be going back!) - I suppose I could use it against parts.
Thinking of starting a thread on crap gararges (from experience not reputation) - would this be allowed? is there already one out there? or is it just too much of a miserable thread - I guess everyone has their story about this don't they. Having now seen that the name of the gararge has now been removed by a moderator I'd say there no real point in doing this.
Anyway not any answers to my real question as yet - alarm settings for a TD5 engine....
Anyone?
I'm still mad though!
Last edited by mools; 18th February 2011 at 02:22 PM. Reason: removed mild / moderate language, comment in light of moderators edits to former post.
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As much as we'd all love to name and shame dodgy dealers/suppliers etc, it's a legal minefield and definitely not worth the trouble and risk. If people are interested enough, you can share you're knowledge via PM or email.
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SupporterHey CraigE,
Sure but I am over here in NZ so it may differ markedly in availability over there. Likewise it may differ between manufacturers. I use the VDO thermocouple.
It is a 1/4" NPT.
Numbers on the Tap are:
1/4" NPT HSSE V4747+
On the box it came in are the numbers and writing:
FEW Cutting Tools
0840400
1/4"NPT BF BOT
ISO2284 C0320
Hope that helps any.
Cheers,
Phil
Moderator
As has been said before, it's how they make up for the mistakes that shows a good mechanic.
Master
SupporterHow they make up for the mistakes, thats customer service; not making the mistakes in the first place is the mark of a good mechanic.
Still no answers to my question - alarm settings for a TD5 engine....
Fossicker
Hey Mools,
In light of current world and domestic issues right now I reckon an oil leak and major inconvienience won't actually kill you. Spare a thought for our brothers over the ditch or a bit closer to home. Yes they stuffed it up, yes your mad we get that, yes they offered to fix it. Your still posting so your still breathing. Justmy 2 cents. Maybe I'm wrong. Regards John.
Last edited by Bent Series; 23rd February 2011 at 08:28 PM. Reason: spelling.
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