Thread: Removing Rear 90 Puma seats

Thread relating to the removal of the two rear seats from a 7 seater 110 but the principle is the same:

Defender (Puma) Rear Seats

I just cover the holes in my D90 with squares of gaffer tape. I left the seatbelts because of the legal implications of removing them.

Cheers
KarlB

x 2 like Karl.

But Karl...
By removing three seats your 90 is now not roadworthy.
It is capacity plated as 5 seats, unless you get it authorised and replated (blueplate) then just think of the insurance implications...

(see annoying it is )

Steve

Originally Posted by roverrescue

But Karl...
By removing three seats your 90 is now not roadworthy.
It is capacity plated as 5 seats, unless you get it authorised and replated (blueplate) then just think of the insurance implications...

(see annoying it is )

Steve

The requirement re seating capacity relates to the number of seatbelts fitted, not the number of 'cushions' etc. so I left the seat belts. I admit it is a grey area however, but made my decision in full knowledge of that.

What is annoying is that new (and old) forum members are encouraged (often inadvertently) to modify their vehicles without advising them of the implications of those modifications. If people want to put 40 inch tyres on, and have a 10 inch lift and remove the muffler or what ever, then that is fine as long as they are aware of the possible consequences. I recognise we all break the rules (at least a little) but should we encourage others to emulate our bad behaviour, and put themselves at risk?

Cheers
KarlB

"The requirement re seating capacity relates to the number of seatbelts fitted"
Qld must be different to ACT then... need a blue plate to change number seats up here. Even pulling the rear seats from a 7 seater technically requires you to blue plate the vehicle.

-Not that I care.

-And not that any insurance company would care.

Your point about being aware of consequences is fine but IMHO by constantly banging on about insurance this and warranty that you underestimate the intelligence of people - even if one is "encouraged" to make mods seen on the internets, chances are they will actually check it for themselves. And this question about seating is a perfect example. Obviously in ACT it is "okay" to leave the belts in but in QLD it would require a blue plate and rego change irrespective of belts. Soooo share what you have done or experienced and let the details work themselves out.

Steve

Does it actually require a blue slip to remove the seats? The largest selling real 4x4 the toymotor playdough has had removable rear load area seats since it's introduction! All you needed to do was lift a clip and the main pivot bar attaching the seats to the L/R side of the load area detached and you where able to lift them straight out. (with the middle lap belt still attached to the seat)
BOTH the VW multivan and the chrysler voyager have seats on rails with the seat belts incorporated that are designed to be removed completly from the van's so you can carry large loads or change from a 7 seater to a 3,4,5 seater with an enlarged load area. So to legally do this in Qld you would need to get a blue slip each time???? I can understand about messing with seat belt mounting points but as long as the bolts are left in the hole's to re- mount the seat there should be no problems, unless it's a govt. manager justifying his own job.

I'm with the it'll-be-ok crowd.

If the terms "common sense" and "legislation" can be used in the same breath then surely the rule is about the maximum number of occupants that can be carried safely (i.e seat belted) in the vehicle.

If I fold my rear seats forward only two occupants can be carried but the vehicle is still capable of carrying 5 by reinstating the seats to their original position.