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    Changes to the Puma Engine & Lineup

    Chaps,

    Indications from our UK friends are that LR is going to produce the Puma with the 2.4 engine only until November before switching to model year 2012 which will be fitted with the 2.2 engine (same as the one in the FL2). It also seems like the 130 is being dropped from the lineup for the MY12.

    If you login to Topix & choose: Defender > 2012, you will see that the engine comes up as '2.2L 16V TC I4 DSL 122PS PUMA' instead of '2.4L DOHC HPCR DSL 140PS PUMA' from the 2007-2011 models:



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    2011 Puma Changes

    according to the horses mouth, the UK dealers have not been told in any communication that the 2.2 is coming. The 90 page model line up update, defender section, only says that certain 130 models and SV versions will no longer be produced due to EU Mass & Dimension laws. The 130 crew cab and cab chassis will still be available in the UK. No tipper, or quadtech version will be available from SV.

    The topix system covers all countries and the snap shot in the previous post shows the 90 soft available....but it is not currently not available to order and will not not be in 2012.

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    More details on the 2.2L being fitted to the 12MY Defender from an internal LR document: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26265626/Defender%20engine.pdf

    You will notice from the CO2 emissions figures that this has nothing to do with CO2 emissions reduction, more likely cost-cutting since the same engine will be going into the Transit vans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naks View Post
    More details on the 2.2L being fitted to the 12MY Defender from an internal LR document: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26265626/Defender%20engine.pdf

    You will notice from the CO2 emissions figures that this has nothing to do with CO2 emissions reduction, more likely cost-cutting since the same engine will be going into the Transit vans.
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    Is the 2.2l supposed to be a better motor than the 2.4 in the PUMA now ? I dont know it was a "mental drama" buying such a large veichle with the diminutive 2.4L motor.....I think 2.2L is getting to small despite the fact it probably has better out puts..................to my way of thinking the 2.4L in its "detuned" state should have good longevity in the PUMA in comparison to a higher output 2.2L am I correct ?

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    Re: Confidential specs ; ))

    How interesting, Identical outputs everywhere, yet an additional 8mph top end, apparantly they have an exemption from the laws of physics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barefoot Dave View Post
    How interesting, Identical outputs everywhere, yet an additional 8mph top end, apparantly they have an exemption from the laws of physics
    Dave.
    not quite.

    Lower compression leads to the assumption that it will be running higher turbo pressures. Turbo would work better in the higher reve range.

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    Do people agree the 2.2l is getting far to small for such a big car......I think the 2.4L is pushing it, longevity will be interesting.................it really should have at LEAST the 2.7 TDV6 Ideally I'd like to see something like a 6cyl 3.5 to 3.8 in it (with stornger diffs/drive line) It then would be perfect in my opnion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pc3 View Post
    Do people agree the 2.2l is getting far to small for such a big car......I think the 2.4L is pushing it, longevity will be interesting.................it really should have at LEAST the 2.7 TDV6 Ideally I'd like to see something like a 6cyl 3.5 to 3.8 in it (with stornger diffs/drive line) It then would be perfect in my opnion.

    Totally agree < cant see why they didnt include the 2.7 TDV6 , more economical , powerful and they have sold a tonne of them with Disco 3 , so economies of scale must be there for them.

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    My thinking is that it will be cheaper to put a new motor in my PUMA 130 twin cab when the time comes than to buy a new 4x4 and add all the bloody expensive items we put on...aux tanks, winches, UHF, lights bash plates etc.

    Given the KM's I do at the moment that would be 15yrs away. I have seen one PUMA with 165,000km on the clock............it will be interesting to see if the PUMA can make 300,000 km with the little 2.4L motor.

    But I will say it does get along nice and you would not think its only a 2.4L engine.

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