Defenders for sale at Manheim NSW

**scrambler** · 23rd August 2011, 01:14 PM

LR have been known to mix-and-match (including fitting Tdi engines for TD5-era British military vehicles).

Whether the grill protrudes or not is no indication of era. The protruding grill indicates whether the vehicle has factory air conditioning. Air conditioning in the Tdi era in Australia was dealer/importer fitted. The factory Tdi air was the same as the County and even LRA knew how bad that was. Every vehicle without air conditioning has the flush grill, from the County through to the TD5.

It is believed (which we all know that can be very wrong) that no Tdi Defenders went into Army service, through some were trialed. I saw a trials crew-cab Defender 110 Tdi in the flesh, and it had a split rear tailgate/hatch (essentially Series 3 style). Looked quite similar to this vehilce internally. IF this was a trials vehicle accepted into service then the rear door may have been upgraded to the TD5 version on the other vehicles.

**87County** · 23rd August 2011, 01:18 PM

Phoenix correctly points out that they're TD5s....(with aircon too)

see earlier thread

Are these tdi or td5 ?

**scrambler** · 23rd August 2011, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by 87County

Phoenix correctly points out that they're TD5s....(with aircon too)

see earlier thread

Are these tdi or td5 ?

Except, just possibly, the last one, with description starting "2000"

At the least it has no air conditioning and the basic dash where the others have factory air and the central TD5 dash pod. Plus there is the older rectangu lar reversing light. Knowing that 300Tdi's where trialed for this role, what is to say this is definitely not a Tdi? Assuming the 2000 isn't right, of course. It's the only thing that rules it out, and even then not absolutely as the British MOD was still receiving 300Tdi engined vehicles at that time. The trials vehicle I saw did not have A/C. I might have been more unhappy about missing out on buying it if it did.

I give it a 50-50.

**LowRanger** · 23rd August 2011, 02:44 PM

There are VIN's listed for all the vehicles,and according to the listed VIN on the last vehicle it is a 2000 TD5

Wayne

**landcol** · 23rd August 2011, 05:51 PM

[FONT=""][COLOR=""][SIZE=""]im no guru but ive read before and also read on sites like wikipedia that no td5's went to the army.they were to worried about reliability with the electrics.not being able to be fixed in the 'field' and all were fitted with 300tdi?just a thought[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT]

**Lotz-A-Landies** · 23rd August 2011, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by landcol

[FONT=""]im no guru but ive read before and also read on sites like wikipedia that no td5's went to the army.they were to worried about reliability with the electrics.not being able to be fixed in the 'field' and all were fitted with 300tdi?just a thought

I too am not an expert, but the fact that MY00 Defenders are arriving in the auction system when MY87 Isuzu/Parenties are still in service gives one the impression that you may be correct about reliability.

PS serves you right for assuming that Wikipedia was any sort of authoratitive source of information.

**samuelclarke** · 23rd August 2011, 06:26 PM

Man I've love one of them! Could keep my Defender company.

Just a small problem of no spare cash at the moment. Bugger.

Well actually I'd love an Isuzu powered one over a TD5...hopefully they'll be kinder on the wallet when they're up for auction.

Be interesting to see what these TD5 ones go for.

**LRO53** · 24th August 2011, 12:49 AM

They are Td5. As per below.

ADF buys Defender Td5s -REMLR

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