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    URGENT HELP NEEDED FOR LR90 on Route

    Just posting up this for my friends, who are in and out of comms, hope some one can help...

    This is a urgent question - sorry in advance. I am currently in
    Goodwindi having travelled from Brisbane this morning in my 90 (2.5D).
    I am loaded up with gear and I noticed that there was a large amount
    of oil coming out of my air filter when I stopped for fuel at
    Goodwindi, after travelling 400km. I also not the following symptoms:

    Engine oil level still normal
    Oil being thrown out the oil breather on the cam cover when revved
    Oil being thrown out the dipstick when revved

    Other noticeable, and possibly related issues:

    Heavy fuel consumption 80L = 400km (we are loaded up here and it was
    pretty hilly on the way out).
    Loss of speed and power on flats (possible due to oil filter clogged with oil).

    Now, I am thinking too things:

    Either

    A - slightly over filled with oil and being thrown out the breathers

    OR

    B Worn rings = excessive blow back and throwing out oil of breathers.

    OR

    C - cracked piston rings

    I had driven approximately 350km around Brisbane and the gold coast
    and not had any issues, but think that the journey out of Brisbane
    (with load - 400kg) may have put excessive stress on the engine.

    I would really appreciate your thoughts ASAP.

    I am going to be spending the night in Goodwindi and getting a
    compression test in the morning. Many many thanks in advance,

    If you are in the area you can call on:


    0469946352 or 0438960878

    Cheers again,

    James

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    B or C for my money. If worn will have low compression across all pots if broken rings likely to be one or two or more. If worn would have been coming for a while and you will have seen signs before. More likely broken rings from overheating.

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    PCV valve could be clogged too, pressurising the sump and forcing oil out

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    Fuel getting into the sump - hence increase in fuel consumption, oil level Ok but oil still getting out due to sump with fuel in it.

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    Well, this is not the best way to start a blog on my attempted trans Australian adventure - "Help, my engine has appeared to have blown up". But I can't change that now!

    So I have made it 400km west of my start point in Brisbane to Goondiwindi, where the aforementioned has occurred:

    - half a pint of oil ****ing out of my air filter onto the garage forecourt.

    Further inspection revealed rather significant blow back on from the engine breather and oil being ejected from the dip stick much in the fashion of a Venusian fountain All pointing to over pressurisation of the crankcase.

    Initial thoughts were that maybe I'd put slightly too much oil in to begin with, but further diagnostic tests and the volume of oil make this unlikely. Mr Blknight has given me a few more, to asses whether or not it is a generally worn engine or one of the piston/compression rings has let(ting) go....tomorrow morning will tell.

    I would like to say this has been the first bit of bad luck of the journey so far, but it seems to be a continuation of a theme. Dealing with Queensland Transport made the process of import look like a piece of cake. 6 days, 8 piece of paper a L01 plate and few dodgy dudes later (one even insisting I fit side intrusion bars on my doors...made of, riveted in rolled hollow sections.....!! I finally got to say "mmmm...I love the smell of freshly pressed tin in the morning...it...*sniff* *sniff*......smells like...VICTORY!" Only to have my hopes dashed 400km later.

    So here I am in a cheap motel, 150km from the planned camp with a sick 90.
    So far I would like to say a big thankyou to Juddy and Gill for letting me stay at theres and fit out the 90. You guys are great. Blknight for giving me advice and tips. Thankyou. And thanks in advance to anyone else who comments.


    Some pictures so far:

    Picking it up at the port, Jerry and his Son helped me get a tow start due to a flat battery (I guess 2 months in a container does that!)

    IMG_1321.jpg

    Full packed

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    Fitting out the truck, with new plates and Co -Driver prior to set off.

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    Heading up towards Warwick. Slow climb up, but that was expected. Trouble seemed to begin after Warwick - Loss of power. I suspected that what ever has let go did so within 100km from Goondiwindi.

    IMG_1392.jpg

    Crappy shot in the fading light off the oil in the air filter. Paper element is soaked in the stuff.

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    Now I am not sure, but does anyone know where I might be able to get a set of 2.5D piston rings from.....in Australia? And if any of the 2.25D rings fit, or 2.5TD for that matter?

    If anyone has any other suggestions to help get me out of this little spot of bother, you would be make very happy. I have pretty much all the tools to strip the engine - bar maybe a set of compression tools for piston rings...but I would appear to be in major-ish truck stop so I dont think they would be too hard to come by.

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    Sorry to hear of your problems.

    All 2.25 and 2.5 pistons are the same diameter (OEM), so rings should fit between them, however there are of course STD and anything up to 0.040" oversize (0.08" for 2.25s). I have a set of new 0.040" 2.25D rings in the shed if they are any help, but I'm sure you can get something closer.

    Broken rings are common on 2.25s IME.

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    you dont NEED a ring compressor to get the pistons in with new rings on em..

    you can iprovise them with a tin can and a hose clamp or do it like I do push them down then squeeze the ring in with your thumbnails.
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    Thanks Ben. I have a plate on the engine that tells me that I have STD rings, and 10 Thou oversize mains, STD big ends. That is all. I guess it depends on how bad things turn out to be tomorrow what happens next. Not sure yet what size I would need if that turns out to be the route I am to take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    you dont NEED a ring compressor to get the pistons in with new rings on em..

    you can iprovise them with a tin can and a hose clamp or do it like I do push them down then squeeze the ring in with your thumbnails.
    AH ha! We must have had the same thought! I have plenty of baked bean cans and a few jubilee clips floating about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veryan View Post
    Thanks Ben. I have a plate on the engine that tells me that I have STD rings, and 10 Thou oversize mains, STD big ends. That is all. I guess it depends on how bad things turn out to be tomorrow what happens next. Not sure yet what size I would need if that turns out to be the route I am to take.
    Mains would be 10 though UNDERsize, not over.

    Have you tried removing the oil filler and/or rocker cover breather and running the motor? If the rings are worn or broken you will get a steady flow of blowby gases.

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