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    Fire Extinguisher mounting - driver's seat box?

    Hi guys, I thought I might revisit an older thread about where people like to mount their fire extinguishers.

    From the earlier threads, it seems that some like it in the back next to recovery gear, some like it on the cargo barrier so they can reach it from the slide window and some remove the handle from the rear door and mount it there on a piece of chequerplate.

    All seem like perfectly sensible options but none of them convinces me that they're easy enough to access if smoke starts billowing from the bonnet.

    Ideally it'd go under my knees at the front of the driver's seat box or behind the cubby box in front of the rear seats but I fear it'd get in the way in both of those locations. So, here's what I'm thinking...

    As i have the Mulgo Ex Box and the driver's seat box is now empty, would it be worth cutting out a panel at the side to make a quick-access door to the contents of this box should I put an extinguisher and maybe some tools in there?

    Has anyone done it and how would I go about fabricating such a piece? I'm sure a photo of someones 110 or 90 that had this done but can't remember where.

    Would love to hear your thoughts....as always.

    Bobby

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    Good idea, I like it.

    My only slight concern would be heat build up against a pressurized container.

    Don't know what the pumas are like but the td5s and before absorb a lot of heat from the gearbox, exhaust (possibly on passenger side) and engine.

    I have 2x1kg units mounted above the rear door.

    I decided against putting one on the seat box below my knees for exactly the same reason you say.

    As mines a double can I didn't hve the luxury o the cargo barrier.

    Jon
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    Heat wont be an issue with fire extinguishers. I have seen them mounted on equipment that gets a lot hotter than a Land Rover Floor.
    I keep 2 a small unit mounted on the tunnel near the gearbox lever and another 1.5kg unit in the rear.
    If you are overlly concerned with heat a bit of insulation will put that thought at ease. If you are going to go down the box path another ide is to get a recessed holder like used in most caravans, cut the appropriate hole and mount. Will keep it out of the way of your legs and still easy to get to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cone of Silence View Post
    So, here's what I'm thinking...

    As i have the Mulgo Ex Box and the driver's seat box is now empty, would it be worth cutting out a panel at the side to make a quick-access door to the contents of this box should I put an extinguisher and maybe some tools in there?


    Would love to hear your thoughts....as always.

    Bobby
    Hi Bobby,

    I am sure that Mulgo have done this mod for a member on this site. Check with Daniel, but it sound like something he could manage.

    Cheers

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    I can also recall a previous thread where someone did some very nice modifications on a Puma straight after delivery, including an Ex-box and a very tidy storage box with access from the side.

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    While we're on extinguishers, at the most recent LROCS meeting one of our members showed images of their misfortune with their Defender on a recent trip to the CSR. While still on made road a fire started under the bonnet, they escaped the cab but the fire was well established in the engine bay and in not many minutes the vehicle was a pool of aluminium on the ground.

    Is it feasable and affordable to have a remote operated or automatic extinguisher for the engine bay?

    I was even thinking of using a 1Kg extinguisher mounted under the bonnet, connected to a choke cable device near the drivers position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
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    Is it feasable and affordable to have a remote operated or automatic extinguisher for the engine bay?

    I was even thinking of using a 1Kg extinguisher mounted under the bonnet, connected to a choke cable device near the drivers position.
    Yep, easy peasy, how many nozzles do you want ?

    All modern racecars have plumbed extinguishers with nozzles into the engine bay and into the cockpit.

    They are generally electrically (electronic) fired but can also be mechanical and it's been a while but I sort of recall 2kg and 4kg bombs available ?

    Race and Rally at Greenacre supply them.
    The manager there is a very good friend of mine.
    They aren't cheap, but work well and it's cheaper than trying to hitch a ride out of the Simpson.

    I think the one here in an old race car is a Lifeline unit. Fire Extinguishers and Fire Suppression Systems

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    Mine is mounted at the drivers feet, on my seatbox. I don't even notice its there, and I've unclipped it several times just incase... Lucky I've never needed it in anger.

    Mounted under bonnet is on the cards too......
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    Yep, easy peasy, how many nozzles do you want ?
    <snip>
    They aren't cheap, but work well and it's cheaper than trying to hitch a ride out of the Simpson.

    I think the one here in an old race car is a Lifeline unit. Fire Extinguishers and Fire Suppression Systems
    Thanks Rick

    The Zero Zero mechanical control looks almost exactly the way I was thinking. A 1Kg or 2Kg bottle directed diagonally across the engine bay would likely give you enough time to get to the front, open the bonnet and hit it with a more directed stream from another extinguisher. The cable mechanism would have to be protected from accidental discharge and have to lock the extinguisher nozzle open, but with a little thought it should be doable.

    As you say may save the rest of the vehicle and a walk out of the desert.

    Diana

    BTW: I'd also be getting rid of as much of that flammable plastics from the engine bay, as we know the Mont Blanc tunnel fire which killed 39 people, was most likely caused by a discarded cigarette butt getting into the plastic air cleaner housing of a Volvo prime mover carrying a load of margarine and flour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loubrey View Post
    I can also recall a previous thread where someone did some very nice modifications on a Puma straight after delivery, including an Ex-box and a very tidy storage box with access from the side.
    I guess you are probably talking about the modifications I did to GAV110's Defender.

    Side access door to under driver seat box not too difficult. I would however not place the fire extinguisher in there as in case of emergency you want to have easy access and not opening lids etc to get to it.
    I normally mount the fire extinguishers at the back of the cubby box, then again, it very much depends on the size of that extinguisher.

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