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    Wheels and Tyres for a Puma

    I know, I know.....this has been done to death. Nevertheless I've searched and searched and still thought it's worth asking...

    It's time for a new set (6) of wheels and tyres...thanks to an irrepairable puncture on the old General Grabber road tyres sustained yesterday (these were on the vehicle when purchased from QLD...put on by previous owner - a road user).

    2008 Defender 110 Wagon. Won't be pulling a trailer, just me and a load of gear for camping around the Great Southern Land.

    WHEELS:
    I don't need anything flash, just a nice set of black steel rims. Given that Defenders have big nuts (ahem), would I need to get these specially made-up? Who are the best people to talk to about new wheels? I'm based in Sydney.

    TYRES:
    I think I'm going to do about 50% of my driving on the road and the other 50% on sand, loose gravel, dirt, mud, rocks etc. So do I go for a 50-50 tyre, or will that still be a bit inadequate when I get into the rough stuff? If I get something with a thicker tread, will I trash it on the road surfaces?

    TUBED/ TUBELESS:
    I am, in all embarassing honesty, entirely cluless as to the practicalities of the two types and which would be better for my purposes and why. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

    SIZES:
    As above, really. Economy v Performance. Width/ height considerations? Confusing stuff!

    I would love to hear recommendations as to which tyres to look at, which brands, which models and sizes etc because I don't really have a scooby doo where to begin. I'm not fussed about cost if it means having the right tyre for the job.

    This could also end up being a useful thread for other newcomers to the game...so feel free to be as constructive and elaborate as you like in your advice!

    Cheers

    Bobby

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    A good size replacement is 265/75/16. They are roughly the same size diameter as original but a bit wider so the gearing etc doesn't need to be changed. Quite a few people in the club, myself included have been running the Mickey Thompson MTZ's, they are a pretty good tyre, more of an aggresive all terrain rather than a full on mud tyre.
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    Bobby,

    I agree with GuyG on the size if you want to stay close to standard there is no better size than the 265/75/16. You get a bit of width for the look and their rolling diameter is identical to standard 235/85/16.

    I personally would look at BF Goodridge and I would go as far as to recommend the AT (All Terrain), but the KM2 (muddy) is reasonably quiet as well. You will get a good 70,000km out of them but Coopers and pretty much everyone claims the same mileage.

    Good choice on 6 wheels and stay with tubeless. Only die-hard bush types actually runs tubes and 98% off us are better off with tubeless.

    Link to some good steelies, their in Melbourne, but they've got some ok shipping rates. Just make sure you check the 16" wheels! The biggest problem we as Land Rover owners have on wheel suppliers, is the stud pattern (6.5" x 6 vs Landcruiser 5.5" x 6).

    Steel Rims

    Cheers,

    Lou
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    Ive ran lots of different tyres and my current pick the BFG AT 235/85R16 are the best for what I do, Good all round tyre, OK on the Road / Mountains & Desert trips. Long 3month+ outback trips
    I run them tubeless on the original 5.5Fx16x33 tubed rims.

    I dont run wider tyres because I like to screw my steering stops in all the way, and with a wider tyre they rub the Radius Arms & you dont get as tight a turning circle

    I have some Sahara Mud Terrains on reversed rims but I dont bother putting them on as the AT's go anywhere I need.

    plus if you do stake one they are easy to get almost anywhere.

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    Thank you guys, this is really helpful.

    The difference between the 65/16 and the 75/16 I assume, is 1cm.

    Loubrey - I'm confused how the 265/75/16 "rolling diameter is identical to standard 235/85/16". How does this work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cone of Silence View Post
    Thank you guys, this is really helpful.

    The difference between the 65/16 and the 75/16 I assume, is 1cm.

    Loubrey - I'm confused how the 265/75/16 "rolling diameter is identical to standard 235/85/16". How does this work?
    Hi Cone of Silence.
    The tyre sizing is made up of
    Section width(not tread width)/ Aspect ratio R(for radial) rim diameter
    so the side wall height of a 235/85 is 85% of 235mm =200mm
    the side wall height of a 265/75 is 75% of 267mm = 199mm
    on top of this there is some variation between brands, but not much.

    Hope this helps

    Tony

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    Have a play with this tyre calculator. It will explain a few of your questions.

    Tyre Size Calculator @ ExplorOz Articles

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    I would put 255/85 BFG KM/2 on your current wheels. They are tubeless.

    They have an agressive pattern, but wear well and are relatively quiet. Perform very well on and off road, and are used by many deefer owners.

    I run them on my county with disco runs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flagg View Post
    I would put 255/85 BFG KM/2 on your current wheels. They are tubeless.

    They have an agressive pattern, but wear well and are relatively quiet. Perform very well on and off road, and are used by many deefer owners.

    I run them on my county with disco runs.
    I've got these on my Puma on the 7inch SVX rims, fantastic. Speedo correct, by G.P.S. Not too noisey, and great to drive on. Supply in the middle of nowhere and slight reduction in turning circle are the only problems I can think that may put you off. The change of rim offset as mentioned by flagg should cure the turning circle.
    Allan

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    I thought the wheel choice woudl be easy. "Steel. Black. 16" please." but alas no....I need to think about the rim offset. I love learning all this stuff.

    I'm not sure keeping the same wheels is the best idea - I've heard bad things about the alloys and I think I may aswell go for some steel.

    If I were to go for the BFG 255/ 85 as opposed to the wider 285/ 75s, what offset would be recommended? More importantly, why? Is the tyre likely to make contact with the body or radius arms at full lock?

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