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  1. 17th January 2012, 06:43 PM #1
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    West Australian suspension idea (link will only work for a few days)

    Hi,
    Interesting video from ABC TV but unfortunately it may only work for a few days till it expires.

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    Very successful suspension idea, and was banned from Dakar race.
    I've put a screen shot below.

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  2. 17th January 2012, 06:46 PM #2
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    which link?
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  3. 17th January 2012, 07:42 PM #3
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    Yep, Kenetic...he did this many years ago, it was in a few 4x4 mags and then just disappeared....becasue it was very good and big money got it. He seems like a very clever guy and good on him.

    other will know more details, but I dont think it just hydraulic rams, but computer linked?? I do wonder if there is any corrolation with the F1 killing williams cars of the 90's that ran similar and got banned???

    The Landy looked impressive going through those wombat holes.

    rember you can have the best/longest shocks in the world, but no good at all with out a well designed link system that can utilise them...
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  4. 17th January 2012, 07:56 PM #4
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    Citroen used it on their WRC and Dakar cars, as did Mitsubishi from memory, and Toyota used it on the LC wagon as an option at one stage.

    [edit] haha, just had a quick look at the link and showed the rally and dakar cars
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    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
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    other will know more details, but I dont think it just hydraulic rams, but computer linked?? I do wonder if there is any corrolation with the F1 killing williams cars of the 90's that ran similar and got banned???

    [snip]
    Naa, Williams made a grossly simplified version of Lotus' active suspension system that worked far better than the overcomplicated, overweight (for racing) Lotus system.
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  6. 17th January 2012, 08:01 PM #6
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    thanks Rick, I figured you would know. BTW your memory is good, click on the blue word LINK in the OP first post, it will take you to the vid and it talks about Citrone having soul rights to it, and racing, them Mitsu, then being sold....check out the landy going through the wonbat holes

    happy new year mate, hope you and Vicky are both well and off to a great start
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  7. 17th January 2012, 08:04 PM #7
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    didnt it get used by lexus/toyota? Looks like some kind of mechanical stabiliser - an improvement on fixed anti-roll bars.

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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ato6iX8QR0k]LandCruiser 200 - Kinetic Suspension System - YouTube[/ame]
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    By memory it was an automatc hydraulic system but had a joystick for manual overide. There was precious little info in late 80s early 90s Overlander latest news, but a fair few pics of a blue County and a mog driving over log beds with incredible articulation at west coast 4wd shows.
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    the basics of it is cross linked hydraulics and then theres the bit of magic in the middle....
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  10. 17th January 2012, 09:08 PM #10
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    The inventor is now probably a very wealthy man and good luck to him.
    I remember reading about the kinetic system way back in the day.The aftermarket suspension industry could have been very different here, but LandRovers back then were pretty much the only common 4wds with link suspensions, but they were low volume sellers in Australia and it wasn't deemed viable to concentrate on producing kits just for them.Far more profitable to sell the design rights to the major vehicle manufacturers.
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