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    Quote Originally Posted by LRO53 View Post
    Could it be that the Upto 7% bio in UK diesel actually makes it cleaner?
    2% probably won't make a huge difference (i.e. be enough to mean visible smoke vs no smoke). The bio is mainly added as a means of getting the fuel lubricity up to spec. West coast diesel in Australia normally has 0% Bio, as there is no local source, so it is cheaper for them to use other lubricity additives.

    Do you have a DPF???

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    Do you have a DPF???
    No DPF fitted.. It's not a new 2.2 Ford Engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRO53 View Post
    No DPF fitted.. It's not a new 2.2 Ford Engine.
    I can never remember what was fitted to the UK TD5s... I though all got oxy-cats and some got DPFs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    I can never remember what was fitted to the UK TD5s... I though all got oxy-cats and some got DPFs?
    I don't think there is any differance to the Exhaust System to a UK / ROW Spec Td5?

    I've still got a Cat and EGR that need to be removed one of these days. It's 2005 so it's the EU3 Spec System.

    On another note anyone got a good idea how i can mount a Australian Size Number plate without it sticking out? I don't really want to buy a personalised one yet... We can get USA Size in Queensland which are perfect for this.

    I don't have the stupid little metal bit the Australian Spec Vehicles have.
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    I had my chipped and intercooled Td5 110 taken to AUS for 2 months and back to Switzerland in 2005. The difference between the European BP Utlimate and the AUS diesel was really surprising! Saying that the UK BP Ultimate is the best diesel I ever tried. My current Puma goes the best with Caltex.m

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRO53 View Post
    I don't think there is any differance to the Exhaust System to a UK / ROW Spec Td5?
    Check this out with the intercooler and radiator. I only say this because I was under the impression with the Disco2 that there was a hot climate specification that the Australian ones got and it included better radiators etc. I'm not sure if the intercooler was a part of that, especially as in the D2a they changed it to a thicker core, but there may be different specs in the intercooler for the Defender that may explain the smoke probs in these parts of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by harry View Post
    i would dare to suggest that you may still have some uk diesel in the tank that has gone stale to which you have added a top up of aussie fuel, i think you give it a look after a couple of tankfuls go through it, it will probably clean up.

    but on the subject of aussie diesel,
    i look after a bunch of diesel powered aircraft, which are allowed to run european diesel but not allowed to run aussie diesel, in aust they are required to operate on jet a1 turbine aircraft fuel, so maybe our fuel isn't as good as the euro stuff.
    Last time I had some batches checked our fuel barely made it to the required Euro III spec. Technically only just safe for the TD5 (for the fuels that made the grade) and out of spec for the PUMA and all the diesels ford put in. From memory the failing points were the suspended particulate matter and the water content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    Last time I had some batches checked our fuel barely made it to the required Euro III spec. Technically only just safe for the TD5 (for the fuels that made the grade) and out of spec for the PUMA and all the diesels ford put in. From memory the failing points were the suspended particulate matter and the water content.
    Interesting. They say the Puma 2.4/2.2 can only handle upto 5% Bio and 0.3% Sulfur 3000 ppm. The EN590 states upto 7% Bio go figure!

    I think the test will be now to run 3 tanks of BP Ultimate through and on the 3rd tank by which time the system should be much cleaner. See if there is any less smoke.

    Nothing else has changed with the vehicle since it left UK so the only factor is the change in fuel.

    http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_inte...o_25022008.pdf
    http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_inte...ate_Diesel.pdf

    Reading this it says on there Website Ultimate is comparable to EURO5 Spec Normal Diesel perhaps we really do have rubbish fuel here in Aus.

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    I dont know the difference between UK and Aus diesel.

    I have a UK imported 2006 TD5 complete with remap and intercooler.

    I know that it produces more smoke here than it did in the UK when the engine is under load or my right foot is particularly heavy.

    WHY????

    Not sure, I put it down to the hotter ambient temps and crappier diesel.

    I have found that after a few tanks of BP Ultimate my smoke levels reduce considerably.

    Wollies fuel seems to smoke a lot, but it my local shop/source.

    On the plus side its better to over fuel than under-fuel.

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    Just a question for Jon and Alex.

    Do your UK spec Defenders have R380 gearboxes with:
    • the external transmission coolers up front.
    • The short loop external pipe.
    • no external gearbox cooling plumbing at all.
    I know that was a design difference between the European spec Discos and South African/Australian spec discos with the R380 boxes, but have never known if it extended to Defenders as well.

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