Thread: Carrying kids in the 130

Definitely not the older defenders, not sure about Pumas.

People get a engineered bar fitted with the anchor points.

Someone should be along shortly let you know where to get them

Mrs hh

Hi,
I have a 96 130. It has 3 anchor points behind the back seat. There is a round bar bolted to each side of the car. The bloke I bought it off had it fitted so im not sure where.
I upgraded from a cruiser ute for the same reason. Best thing I ever did.
Regards
Andrew

Thanks, I will know soon then.

No Pumas don't have children's seats anchor points. Mind you that are nothing fancy for the money, a piece of angle with hole for a bolt, and a slot to accommodate the seats clip. They are bolted in an existing bolt hole that holds the top of the cab to the bottom. Not even a bar running the width of the cab utilising more factory holes. I was surprised, but I guess I have the compliance plate to say it's all ship shape, cost around $300 from a vague memory.

As for a star safety rating, your it. You have 4 disc brakes, a big chassis, two tone of vehicle and a brain. Drive it how you see fit.
The 130 don't have ABS or traction control. They do have F and R sway bars however. I find due to being higher than most things you have an advantage. I also fitted a full length sliders to the out riggers for extra piece of mind with a side impact, as well as access, and the obvious.

I do find however the puma rear seats are quite up wright in the back. Just consider that before you buy as there is virtually no play to tilt them further back.

Definitely not standard on the latest model 130. This thread has plenty of information.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/good-oil/5...-creb-bar.html

There was also a thread in the past on Defender safety. There was some study in the UK of survival rates for two car collisions and the defender rated as one of the best.

As defender 130 is sold as commercial vehicle, child seat mounts not required.

Mine has a solid alloy bar 60mm x 20mm full width of the rear behind the 2 vertical seat braces behind the seat. Mounted well and would not move too much. I tried to have it engineer approved but they changed the rules saying strap clip must be able to be undone without tools or removing seats. 130 fails this as seats held back by 2 x 6mm bolts. I thought of putting in quick release latches etc but engineer said every added complexity would reduce chance of approval. . Kids getting bigger and will not need child seats soon. He said was up to and beyond the job so left it as is. Fitted a safety hammer with belt cut tool in handle.

Zwitter

Yes, the good wife asked about safety ratings....I muttered something about average lower speeds etc, higher & better vision etc then tried to wander off.

Swmbo keeps saying those Amorak or Ranger things look nice, Im trying to pretend I cant hear...

Its hard to convince when the safety argument is thrown up as that's one of the reasons she hates me putting No 1 brat in the front of the ute (in proper kid seat thing with racing harness seat belt). Safety.

I'm starting to lose....

I did the research on this last year for my 130. These guys were the only ones I could find in NSW that do a proper engineered job: Seat Belts - Karlisle's
They pull the rear seat to bits and make a frame that has three mounts across the rear seat back, then put all the trim and foam back in place. It's definitely the most professional option I could find. They were not cheap though and I didn't end up pulling the trigger - it's on the to-do list!

The 130 has no mounts from the factory and the 'bolts and plates' through the aluminium rear wall will not pass muster in NSW, although it does in other states.

The CRAB bar (yes, I know the B stands for bar) that fits in the 110 doesn't fit properly in the 130 and although you may find an engineer to give you the thumbs up, it's not a good solution for the 130 IMO.

The standard ute plates that fit vertically across the rear window can't be used on a Landy because of the aluminium body.

Hope that helps!

Cheers,

Adam