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                                                2nd April 2012, 09:32 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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			ARB air locker into sals - do it yourself?
		
 
			
				
					HI all, just how hard is it to install an arb air locker into a salisbury diff? I know you need a few special tools but quotes of $600+ are making me think (only think) about having a crack at it myself. I hear it would need to be shimmed and backlash and preload need to be set (not that I'm totally up on those two) but it doesn't really look like rocket science. But I have learnt to take the good advice of others, so await your learned opinions with baited breath  
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                                                2nd April 2012, 10:06 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Hi. I have fitted mine myself  in the defender (F&R) at home and managed it without the diff spreader. However, if you arent to handy with a spanner ( I was a mechanic ) and can't get your head around the math for the shims and don't have the tools to measure them correctly then leave it well alone. And that's before you even think about drilling a hole in the RH bearing cap or drilling holes in the diff housing. stuff that up and you end up with lots of expensive scrap. Pay the experts and sleep well at night.
 
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                                                2nd April 2012, 10:33 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Hi,
 
 I think you'll find a few threads on this. I've done it, but it's not so much tricky, but difficult to know when you have the settings/preloads/gear engagement  right, so in and out a lot.
 
 If you have to buy  tapered tap & matching drill, dial gauge and magnetic stand, feeler guages, solid axle stands, etc the shop price is probably worth it it.
 
 It'll probably take or at least allow all day, and really consider taking the diff out of the car, it's so much easier to work on- the dana/sals centre is  really heavy and unless you have a hoist hard to see well enough under the car. When I did mine I ended up doing this.
 
 The newer ARB lockers don't go through the bearing cap so one less one thing to do.
 
 I'd say the safest and maybe in the long run  cheapest way to go is to take the  the diff out to the diff shop save a few bucks there and use that saving to contribute to installing new pinion bearings, flange/seals checked and maybe replaced to ensure no leaks and install a solid opinion spacer in lieu of collapsible.
 
 This will ensure a much more reliable diff in the long run. I think you'll find lots of  threads on these
 
 Clive
 
 
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                                                3rd April 2012, 09:29 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Thanks very much guys. I appreciate your feedback. I'm reasonably handy with a spanner but not a mechanic, don't have the specialist tools or a hoist  but reckon I could easily get my head around the maths for the shims, etc but then again certainly see the value in getting it done professionally. Might have to try finding a cheaper installation price (if they exist) or alternatively finding a bit more income. Many thanks again
 cheers gerald
 
 
 
 
 
 
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                                                3rd April 2012, 10:12 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					Pay some one to do it.
 600 dollars sounds like good value to me for the effort involed.
 Pick a diff specialist, or a more experienced mechanic too.
 ARB lockers can have problems with leaking O rings.
 Get the set up on the carrier bearings abit wrong and thats what you will get and why some people get problematic lockers and others trouble free.
 Sometimes a Automotive engineer is not the grease monkeys that they are made out to be.
 
 http://www.aulro.com/afvb/fcs-milita...ff-lock-2.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
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                                                4th April 2012, 06:34 PM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					I think the leaking seals are from the old type of Oring, they now run a square section Oring. 
 
 I have fitted both mine and one to a sierra no dramas(I am a mechanic when not a soldier ). ).
 
 You do need a dial indicator though and feeler gauges, + the other normal tools.
 
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					Thanks again gents,even though I'd really like to do it myself cos I find diffs fascinating,  I'm now starting to lean towards getting someone to do it. I've had three "quotes" - $620 from the 4WD centre at Taren Point, Sydney, $720 from ARB themselves cos they'll  hit me up cos it's second hand and "we won't do an ARB locker" from Graeme Cooper, near Newtown, Sydney. I guess there are times when its wiser to do more of what you do every day to earn a buck and use that money to pay someone else to do what they do everyday to earn a buck. many thanks to all
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                                                8th April 2012, 10:51 AM
                                        
                                
                                
                                        
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					have a go your self mate. its easy enough and just buy a dial indicator and stand of ebay.
 
 i put an arb locker in my Salisbury front axle and did it with out a separator.
 
 there is only 1 way to learn and your under standing of diffs will get allot better.
 
 maybe give your self a full weekend though and before you take out your diff check the backlash and tooth pattern with oxide coloring.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					Thanks middy.01 - now I'm really confused. I'd like to have a go myself and did consider just buying the tools but I've got a bit of work around the house on my plate. aarrgghh decisions, decisions - still, I've got to get the locker yet .thanks again   
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					A timely thread, thanks.
 Im about to put a Detroit Trutrac into the Salisbury in my 04 Defender,
 Asides from the fact that its half the price, main Reason Im not going ARB is the Traction Control will compliment the TrueTrac  & vice versa.   Would have been so easy  and even cheaper to just crack the carrier & put a Detroit Soft Locker in but  what a waste of the Traction control.
 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  101 Ron  
 
 
 
 Thanks for the link, very useful info.
 I will have the same backlash & shimming issues with the TrueTrac as the ARB , only thing I won't need to do is airlines etc.
 
 Re Shimming for backlash.  Im thinking to save hassles to under shim between the cones & carrier then do final set up with the big shims between the cups & housing. This will save pulling the bearings off.
 
 Any reasons why this won't work ??
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
		
		
			
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