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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTinnie View Post
    It comes with the kit! Buy RAA623 from any dealer. That's all you need.

    I don't understand why ppl have said "I don't do electricals" etc when it's so easy. Remove RHS Rear wheel, remove black plastic with 2 screws from memory and Plug it in the socket, simple.

    If you have paid someone to install for you, sorry but you have been ripped off! Most dealers ( outside of LR) do a terrible job at it anyway poorly splicing straight into the tail light or even getting it wrong completely. I had park/number plate light come on instead of brakes from the Jeep factory
    It didn't come with the kit on mine. The "loom" that came with my tow kit was just a 7-pin flat connector and a length of 7 wire trailer wiring cable like you buy from SuperA1EPCO. My understanding is that it is a "Europe only" item as it has wiring connections that we don't use. It's made for a 9-pin system. I bought my loom from someone on AULRO that had one from an import Disco. I then had to wire this up to the 7-pin round socket I bought, so there is a bit of wiring connections involved, but not a major job by any stretch of the imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBoRover View Post
    It didn't come with the kit on mine. The "loom" that came with my tow kit was just a 7-pin flat connector and a length of 7 wire trailer wiring cable like you buy from SuperA1EPCO. My understanding is that it is a "Europe only" item as it has wiring connections that we don't use. It's made for a 9-pin system. I bought my loom from someone on AULRO that had one from an import Disco. I then had to wire this up to the 7-pin round socket I bought, so there is a bit of wiring connections involved, but not a major job by any stretch of the imagination.
    Hrm, I wonder were i would be able to find one of theese plugs. . Im no stranger to wiring but if i can make a loow that just plugs directly into a factory connector on the Defender that would be the best option.

    it didnt have a part number on it by any chance did it :S

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTinnie View Post
    It comes with the kit! Buy RAA623 from any dealer. That's all you need.

    I don't understand why ppl have said "I don't do electricals" etc when it's so easy. Remove RHS Rear wheel, remove black plastic with 2 screws from memory and Plug it in the socket, simple.

    If you have paid someone to install for you, sorry but you have been ripped off! Most dealers ( outside of LR) do a terrible job at it anyway poorly splicing straight into the tail light or even getting it wrong completely. I had park/number plate light come on instead of brakes from the Jeep factory
    from my understanding a plug in loom does not come with the RAA623 just a trailer plug and wires that need to be termanated* with either with scotch locks, gel connectors or soldering to existing wires. which is fine.

    but what im after is getting the loom or jsut a connector that will plug into the factory land rover trailer harness already on the car that i can then connect the supplied trailer plug to.

    I know its not hard its quite easy but i cant seem to find a part number on this connector or where to purchase that part, as I would like to avoid cutting/soldering/scotch locking onto existing wires when there is a possibility to make a small cable and just plug it in.
    Last edited by Leroy_Riding; 4th July 2012 at 03:26 PM. Reason: spelling, yet its still horrific :|

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    Thought I would post a picture of the towbar I fitted to mine, NAS rear step with a 2" receiver (very rare in the UK) comes with a drop plate and also purchased a recovery hitch as well.

    Shot at 2012-07-07

    Hopefully she'll be on the boat in just under 2 months!

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    ok makes sense. if it doesn't have the male connector on the end we need this:

    "YPC114860 - the Male connector that is fitted on the Land Rover 12N kit? (same as the Discovery II 12N kit)

    It's a Sumitomo DL Sealed Series 090/187 (2.3/4.8mm) HYBRID 9-way Male Housing, Sumitomo Part No. - 6195-0173"

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/1522158-post30.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTinnie View Post
    ok makes sense. if it doesn't have the male connector on the end we need this:

    "YPC114860 - the Male connector that is fitted on the Land Rover 12N kit? (same as the Discovery II 12N kit)

    It's a Sumitomo DL Sealed Series 090/187 (2.3/4.8mm) HYBRID 9-way Male Housing, Sumitomo Part No. - 6195-0173"

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/1522158-post30.html
    Cheers,
    Ill get myself one of theese connectors when I start on the towbar.

    On a slight side note, whats the omst anyone has towed with a puma90 ? Its 'rated' at 3.5t but I dare say that would not be a fun experience?

    thanks
    Leroy

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    Quote Originally Posted by nedflanders View Post
    Thought I would post a picture of the towbar I fitted to mine, NAS rear step with a 2" receiver (very rare in the UK) comes with a drop plate and also purchased a recovery hitch as well.

    Shot at 2012-07-07

    Hopefully she'll be on the boat in just under 2 months!
    That's a neat looking towbar! I've not seen one here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sue View Post
    That's a neat looking towbar! I've not seen one here!
    Thanks, was after a NAS rear step but with a 2in receiver, took awhile to find one as the 2in receiver isn't common in the UK, has high lift points built in, plus offers a lot of protection in a rear shunt!

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    question for the gurus - what fits in the rear bar seen at the top right of the below photo? (circular cut out and square hole)

    I found a couple of online UK stores to order the N Type harness from, but for $62 AUD + shipping, I'm thinking i'll just stop being lazy and solder the flat connector and wiring that's provided with RAA623 in. BTW best price i ended up with was $400 from the dealer that sold me the 90.

    LR005920 N type: Towing Electrics 'N' Type 07- (OEM) LR005920 Island 4x4 - Specialists in Land Rover and Range Rover Parts and accessories for all models. UK and worldwide mail order. $62 AUD + shipping

    LR005921 S type: LR005921 | Towing Hook Kit $86 AUD + shipping

    for S type harness (powered trailer & reverse light) you'll also still need to run a switched ignition feed from the cabin.



    Last edited by TheTinnie; 16th August 2012 at 10:40 AM. Reason: S type price reduced

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTinnie View Post
    question for the gurus - what fits in the rear bar seen at the top right of the below photo? (circular cut out and square hole)

    I found a couple of online UK stores to order the N Type harness from, but for $62 AUD + shipping, I'm thinking i'll just stop being lazy and solder the flat connector and wiring that's provided with RAA623 in. BTW best price i ended up with was $400 from the dealer that sold me the 90.

    LR005920 N type: Towing Electrics 'N' Type 07- (OEM) LR005920 Island 4x4 - Specialists in Land Rover and Range Rover Parts and accessories for all models. UK and worldwide mail order. $62 AUD + shipping

    LR005921 S type: LR005921 | Towing Hook Kit $86 AUD + shipping

    for S type harness (powered trailer & reverse light) you'll also still need to run a switched ignition feed from the cabin.



    Ive been wondering what that hole is for. . . . an Answer from those in the know would be great.

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