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    Were you thinking of the 110 station wagon or dual cab, or the 90? If any of the others, you won't have the option of traction control as far as I understand it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzutoo-eh View Post
    Were you thinking of the 110 station wagon or dual cab, or the 90? If any of the others, you won't have the option of traction control as far as I understand it anyway.
    In Australia ETC/ABS comes standard on Defender 90, 110 SW, and 110 Crew Cab. It is optional on 110 HT, and 110 HCPU. It is not available on any 130.

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    If you are asking me, i want the 110 hardtop with the opional rear sliding widows, in Keswick green.
    Be cute, eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by olbod View Post
    Thank you all for the very informative reply's.
    I am learning so much about the new Defender without actually owning one yet and I am looking forward to it.
    I had a reply from BAS. Below
    What they have is better than nothing, eh.
    I have also asked what they have in development for the 2.2 systems.
    When I get a Defender I will not change anything untill I have done some trips and seen for myself what's what.
    Except perhaps to add the Mulgo long range tanks.

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    Hi Robert,

    BAS sell Blackbox Solutions diagnostic products, they don't develop their own. The head honcho of Blackbox Solutions post to AULRO under the name BBS Guy and is a regular poster to the Electronic Diagnostics forum. If you are interested in what the status of the 2.2 is you can always send him a PM, or post to diagnostics area of the forum.

    It's worth noting Blackbox Solution also offer a discount on equipment purchases to AULRO members. There are some conditions - being a member for more than 6 months and a minimum number of forum posts - to prevent people signing up purely to get the discount.

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    (Not affilated in any way shape or form with BBS, just a satisfied owner of one of their products)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlB View Post
    In Australia ETC/ABS comes standard on Defender 90, 110 SW, and 110 Crew Cab. It is optional on 110 HT, and 110 HCPU. It is not available on any 130.

    Cheers
    KarlB

    Hmm, I suppose the hardtop has the same diff,s ?
    Without the TC, they would need something like locking diff,s then.
    If lockers fitted without the optional TC, I wonder if that would still void the warrenty ?
    Perhaps that would be an important question to ask a dealer before placing an order. Or maybe better to just order the optional TC.
    I wonder if you can have that without the ABS ?

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    Robert.

    PS: Thanks for that info Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olbod View Post
    Hmm, I suppose the hardtop has the same diff,s ?
    Without the TC, they would need something like locking diff,s then.
    If lockers fitted without the optional TC, I wonder if that would still void the warrenty ?
    Perhaps that would be an important question to ask a dealer before placing an order. Or maybe better to just order the optional TC.
    I wonder if you can have that without the ABS ?

    Cheers.

    Robert.

    PS: Thanks for that info Paul.
    Yes the warrenty goes. I had a locker fitted when my vehicle was just 2 weeks old, no warrenty on the rear diff after that. Even a pinion oil seal weep they would not touch. They suggested I take it to A.R.B. to fix. The remainder of the transmission was still warrented though. I would order the T.C. option, as I said in an earlier post, I have yet to use my locker and we go to some remote areas to play.

    Allan

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    ETC and ABS are all the same electronic braking system. ABS braking is a very good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olbod View Post
    If you are asking me, i want the 110 hardtop with the opional rear sliding widows, in Keswick green.
    Be cute, eh

    Cheers.

    Robert.
    Nice.

    Would look great with the white roof

    Can you still get a white roof? If not paint it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlB View Post
    ETC and ABS are all the same electronic braking system. ABS braking is a very good thing.
    ABS is brilliant on bitumen but IMHO bloody lethal when towing on loose surfaces.
    ABS works by detecting when a wheel has locked up (under braking) and then releasing the brakes on that wheel and re-applying braking force on that wheel without locking up. A brilliant and effective safe braking system when used on a FIRM surface.
    ABS is absolutely bloody useless when used on a loose surface. For example outback dirt roads. When braking on loose surfaces a 'bow wave' of loose material is built up ahead of the wheels which is the major stopping contributor when breaking hard on such a 'ball bearing' surface. ABS negates this condition by applying and releasing the brakes thus preventing the formation of this 'bow wave'.
    When towing (especially an unbraked trailer) this is very obvious. Breaking distance under hard breaking is dramatically increased.
    Whilst ABS may be a life saver on firm surfaces it is bloody scary on loose surfaces.

    Deano

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