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Thread: Puma, 5 cyl 3.2 Tdci

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    I don't like the chances of that engine ever gracing a Defender engine bay.

    It appears that Landrover like the Defender to be underpowered and never upstage the disco or rangies. the whole drivetrain would need to chage.
    A Mate of mine has the new navara with v6 diesel. beast of an engine but nissan insist on putting the 3 litre in the patrol.

    I guess it happens in the japanese camp also.

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    No boogie the Japanese carry the same engine across from their passenger 4bies, navara has the pathfinder donks, hilux the playdo, triton the pajero/challenger. But Mazda has the same English built engine as the ford ranger, puma td5, 3.2, which may be building a wagon version. Patrol has the hg3.0td as the 4.2six didn't meet emissions and was not worthwhile with a new patrol due soon, the Toyota mob put a detuned tdv8 into their commercials which LR should learn from
    Imagine the sales of a fully coil sprung defender with a 200kw tdv8. Obviously they cant sorry but the current $15-20,000 difference between a series toymota and a defender would pay for stronger axles and better clutch,prop, gearbox with change even using Ashcroft retail. Hell at that price they could flog the auto out of a territory and mate it to their transfer case for low range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
    That looks like a fun engine bay to work in ....
    About the same as the stock engine. It is only 1 cylinder longer than the 2.4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimNZ View Post
    About the same as the stock engine. It is only 1 cylinder longer than the 2.4.
    And there is a gap of about 45cm between the fan and radiator...

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    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
    Id be interested to see the Radiator, intercooler, A/C condenser set up and also the engine temps run if used in Oz in summer....
    From what I've read on the UK threads Bell Autos are using purpose built intercoolers, (inlet/outlet diameters are larger), and radiators from Allisport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noogie View Post
    I don't like the chances of that engine ever gracing a Defender engine bay.

    It appears that Landrover like the Defender to be underpowered and never upstage the disco or rangies. the whole drivetrain would need to chage.
    A Mate of mine has the new navara with v6 diesel. beast of an engine but nissan insist on putting the 3 litre in the patrol.

    I guess it happens in the japanese camp also.
    Nissan are running out the diesel in the pootrol anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimNZ View Post
    About the same as the stock engine. It is only 1 cylinder longer than the 2.4.
    sorry, Im only use to a TDi engine bay, so not sure of the 2.4/2.2TDic...but looking at that pic, looks even more crammed than mine!

    As for the 450mm from the fan and Rad, what BS, even if joking. I think you are being decived by the large platsic shroud that comes up and hugs the engine block.....how the hell would they get the 5cyl further back, by any decent amount to a 300tdi...which was pushed forward for production line reasons..

    Where is the front pullly in relation to the front axle on the currenet 2.2 defenders?

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    I'm not sure but I don't think my puma came with a motor I thought it was only a radiator shroud if they would worry more about motors and drive lines than enormous shrouds and playdow drive components I would deffinately spend more on one

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    With the exception of the fact that it has 5 cylinders what relevance has this engine to Landrover - I thought that in other threads on this it was decided that is the sole relevance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    With the exception of the fact that it has 5 cylinders what relevance has this engine to Landrover - I thought that in other threads on this it was decided that is the sole relevance.

    Garry

    Everyone supposed it would fit, BAS have made it fit.

    It has oodles of torque and HP.

    The gearbox behind it should be able to bolt up to an LT230 reasonably readily (maybe) seeing as it's very closely related to the MT82 used behind the 2.4 and 2.2 TDCi's. Apparently only bearing sizes are different. Ashcrofts mated it to the LT230.

    Over the next few years there will be more than a few of these engines available via wrecks in Rangers and BT50's so it may be another way to repower a Deefer with something that has decent torque rather than using a (heavy) old school 4BD1T.

    I'd love a 4BD1T, but they are a lump of a thing, the extra 150kg up front really puts me off and the HS2.8TGV really isn't a viable option anymore regarding spares availability, etc.

    Could I afford a 3.2 conversion ? not at the moment, but I can dream

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