Thread: Suspension Advice Needed

Originally Posted by ade

I agree if landrover thought it needed a 2 inch lift they would have fitted it with one

I've never, ever 'gotten' this argument....

Sometimes we may want to do something differently to what Land Rover envisaged, sometimes what Land Rover has engineered can easily be improved.
It's not what Land Rover thought, it's what I want to do that's important.

To put it another way, one of my mates is an ex-Land Rover engineer and he can list multiple things they've done wrong/badly/poorly over the years, so a Defender can be improved in so many areas, even their engineers think so

Having said that, most people that 'lift' a 4WD do it pretty poorly, with little thought about how to combine the sometimes conflicting requirements anyway.

Originally Posted by chook73

No they don't fit properly (well they fit but they rub), you need to go the pro-sport (I think they are called) on the front and big bore on the rear.

Ahh! I better look into that , does that go for the +2 ones ?

Where do they rub ?

Originally Posted by Dockstrada

Ahh! I better look into that , does that go for the +2 ones ?

Where do they rub ?

Yes and if your going to fit +2 make sure you have done your measurements as mine dislocated +2 springs.

From memory they rubbed on the spring and the turret.

Originally Posted by ade

I agree if landrover thought it needed a 2 inch lift they would have fitted it with one

So by that theory none of us should have a snorkel?

Drover

Do you have relocation cones or straps fitted? have you left the internal string in the rear? You don't find the big bore to rigid in the rear?

I'm thinking i'll go with terrafirma. Big bore shocks in the rear and the pro shocks in the front with 2inch pro springs all round.

Originally Posted by Ben7

Drover

Do you have relocation cones or straps fitted? have you left the internal string in the rear? You don't find the big bore to rigid in the rear?

I'm thinking i'll go with terrafirma. Big bore shocks in the rear and the pro shocks in the front with 2inch pro springs all round.

What rate springs are you after Ben? I have a set of the medium which were too soft for me that have done about 20km I would sell you at a good price.


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Originally Posted by Ben7

Drover

Do you have relocation cones or straps fitted? have you left the internal string in the rear? You don't find the big bore to rigid in the rear?

I'm thinking i'll go with terrafirma. Big bore shocks in the rear and the pro shocks in the front with 2inch pro springs all round.

I have TF +50mm pros ports in the front with +50 Old Man Emu springs. There extended length is a perfect match. A full drop the spring don't dislocate at all.

The rear springs, although +50mm are still the same length as stock springs ? Yeah I was surprised to. I run PolyAir's air bag so I don't want any dislocation and I can't use cones( due to the air bags)....so I use stock length TF BigBores.

I still have the extra ground clearance, without dislocation issues.

BigBores are great shock, they are very comfortable, but due to the large size do not suffer any fade when hot.

Cheers

So I have fitted some new shocks.
After buying the T/F Big Bore for the fronts and rear, I did a quick measure and noticed that when I fitted the +50 coils to the front it rotates the diff forward which moves the shocks off center, foward in the shock tower see in pic, hence the clearance problem with fitting the T/F B/bore shocks with +50 lift.

Att full extention .

With weight of truck .


Solution is to fit castor correction radius arms to rotate the diff back to OEM standard, maybe later .

So I ended up with
T/F pro sports +50 on the front
T/F Big Bores standard hight on the rear which after I measured them they are 38mm longer than the standard L/Rover ones.



My next problem is that pro sport’s shocks only come in +50 so now I have a uni binding and spring dislocation issue on full articulation.

Solution for shaft, I just ordered a DBL Cardan shaft from Tom Woods

Solution for spring dislocation, hoping that I can have some feedback from the forum .

The dislocation isn’t allot, it’s only about 20mm at the front of the spring the rear is still sitting on the plate.

I was thinking of machining a new lower plate with a internal cone with a 80mm hole in the top to clear the shock maybe 40 or 50 mm high guide cone so it guides the spring back in into the seat .