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Thread: Water temp spiking on hills...what to look for

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    Water temp spiking on hills...what to look for

    Currently touring NSW and the temp gauge is wanting to rise about 105 degrees on the hills and sits between 90 and 95 on the flat at 100km/hr

    First time towing the camper trailer which weighs in at 1200kg, unloaded around the city it seems to sit around 90 degrees

    New radiator fitted jan 2011

    Low water alarm is not going off

    Oh and I have a mechanical temp gauge which has a nice spread 40-120 degrees starting at 7 through to 5 on the face

    What should I be checking when I get into armidale????

    Backing off on the hills seems to be working and we are in no rush.....

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    Viscous fan. Be quick easy place to start.

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    My Disco had a similar issue

    at 110 fully loaded I would see the temp gauge climb back off to 80/90kph and temp would drop back to normal

    Could never get it to happen with no load in/behind the car. The way it was put to me was the radiator was likely partially blocked and the back preasure combine with the high pump rpm was causing cavitation and once that started pumping efficency dropped dramatically. Back off the rpm and cavitation would stop and it would be moving enough coolant again to keep it cool.

    Fast forward a couple of months got the radiator flushed and rodded out(40% Blocked) and on another long trip even more heavily loaded there was no sign of the previous issue.

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    'Fred' loosing his cool but not the coolant

    'Fred' (D1 300TDi man) is doing the same, with the exact same symptoms.
    Changed the viscous fan hub over with a second hand one and that was a bit of a improvement.
    Still noticed the temperature rising when we went up through Black Charlies Opening on the way to the East Coast last weekend, so the radiator will be removed next to get rodded out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muddymech View Post
    Viscous fan. Be quick easy place to start.
    How does one check the viscous fan??

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    I'm wondering if I need to remove a land rover badge from the grill...

    Gave her the once over, no water leaks and level has not moved

    I do have an oil leak on the side of the motor....vac pump maybe? Noticed a film of oil on the camper trailer.

    Will check viscous fan once armed with the knowledge
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    thats not dangerous depending on the cooling mix your using.

    the boiling point of plain water at 14psig is 119 degrees

    the boiling point of most coolant mixes at atmospheric pressure is about 104-110 (varies with brand and concentrate)

    I would be starting with checking out if theres any airflow blockages to the radiator ( I see about 3 a year with the gap between the condensor and the radiator full of mud) the Fan VC, the operation of the thermostat (if its only partially opening you wont get full coolant flow through the radiator), the condition of the radiator (if its restricting flow again you wont get full flow through the radiator)


    If fault finding shows it to be a blocked radiator, Dump the coolant, flush the whole cooling system with tap water as best you can, put in a cooling system cleaning/flushing agent and then take it into a shop to have the radiator Rodded/recored as appropriate and tell them that while they have it you would like a new thermostat installed and a pressure flush or back wash (essentially the same thing but it depends on where/who taught the bloke) as you have a cleaning agent in there at the moment (be sure to provide them with the bottle for WHS reasons) Make sure that you have all the details for the vehicle including the type (ethyl-glycol, OAT, HOAT, soluable oil) of coolant that you want to have put into the system.

    A word of caution.

    If the radiator cores are blocked there is a VERY high chance that the cores of the heater matrix are in the same condition as the radiator. If the bloke doing the rodding complains that they are rotten and this is a sod of a job and damnable landrover parts etc etc you would be wise to have a short section of bypass hose made up to deal with the heater matrix failing.


    the quick check for the VC is with the engine cold try to stop it with a bit of cardboard after the engines been idling for about 30 seconds, it should stop quickly, then repeating the test with the engine warm it should chew up the cardboard. You should also check the security of the hub on the drive spindle, if its got any rock in it its US.
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    A bit of a search tells me I should be able to push the fan around by hand it it should stop pretty much as soon as I take pressure off.....all good

    Radiator is clean, condenser has a couple of bugs other than that it looks good as well

    Will see how it behaves tomorrow

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    Oh heater matrix is already bypassed

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeds View Post
    A bit of a search tells me I should be able to push the fan around by hand it it should stop pretty much as soon as I take pressure off.....all good
    Ummm, not always....

    when the fans been sitting the oil pools and fills just one portion of the impeller/turbine drive section giving enough grip to get the initial air flow on start up (picture the vehicle shut down hot facing into a slight breeze, it would only take a minute or 2 for the radiator to cool down and then for the VC to cool down as well giving no drive to the fan on a hot start up)
    Dave

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