late td5 or early puma?

**chuck** · 16th October 2012, 06:55 PM

The prices of well maintained TD5's are high.

There is some negotiation in new Defenders.

If you negotiate a good price and get the free corporate servicing package you could offset the purchase price by knowing you will not have to pay for service or repairs for 3 years.
If you are going to finance you will get a much better deal with a new car.
Something else to complicate the selection process!!!!

The air con has to work hard to cool such a big space.
The advantage over the TD5's is the face vents so that you can direct the air on to your face rather than knees.

I had a TD5 albeit in a D2.

I managed to incur all of the "little"problems of a TD5 i.e.
oil in the injector harness.
seized idler pulleys
severed hydraulic hoses
warped exhaust manifold
releif valves

They were not that expensive to fix but were annoying and eventually added up.

Cheers

**Samblers** · 16th October 2012, 06:57 PM

Thanks chuck

I am not considering a new puma, just an early puma (i.e. 2008 ish) versus 2005/6/7 td5

But yes the prices of nicer td5's are remarkably high, which is why i ask the question...

Cheers

**camel_landy** · 16th October 2012, 07:00 PM

Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with either. Both are very solid, reliable platforms and I have spent plenty of time in both. If you have never driven either, it will be worth having a go in both as the different engines do drive differently.

Something I want to put straight from a previous comment though:

Anti-Stall... It IS also on the TD5.

The main reasons I'd go for a Puma over a TD5 are:

Better dash.
Better air-con.
Better rear seating.

M

**Samblers** · 16th October 2012, 08:22 PM

I think air-con may be a clincher, particularly with the Mrs

I know this seems to be a can of worms with Defenders (be gentle)...

but can the td5 aircon be upgraded?

**Disco Muppet** · 16th October 2012, 08:29 PM

Sure, open the windows

Td5s can be expensive to maintain, but that can depend on how lucky you are

Drive them both, see which on you prefer.

**towe0609** · 16th October 2012, 08:45 PM

A few AC upgrade options. This the ugliest and most expensive, but v effective and no condenser in front of radiator.

**Blknight.aus** · 16th October 2012, 08:53 PM

sure can ,just pull the center left vent out of the facia.

Found that one out by accident.

**goingbush** · 16th October 2012, 09:12 PM

Ive not owned a puma so its probably not fair that I comment, But I've owned a lot of Landrovers and 3 Landcruisers & a few ordinary cars too, as far as I'm concerned, the Td5 is the greatest engine of them all. Sure it has quirks but its a truly brilliant & very simple engine.

As far as the Aircon goes, the Td5 A/C is a joke. Again, cant comment on the Puma A/C.

but for just over a grand, Ive fitted an aftermarket minivan evaporator in the rear & its now by far the best A/C of any vehicle I've ever been in, it has to be expreienced to be believed.

theres a thread on it here somewhere.

**Samblers** · 16th October 2012, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by towe0609

A few AC upgrade options. This the ugliest and most expensive, but v effective and no condenser in front of radiator.

Yeah thats fugly

n plus one · 16th October 2012, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Samblers

Has anyone on here owned both?

Yep.

If you're after something to transport the family in go the Puma - more civilised interior,functional AC and reduced engin noise on the open road.

If you're after an off road truck just for you I'd go the TD5 - save a few bucks to spend on goodies and who cares about the civilities you're in low range anyway?

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