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Thread: Convert Dual Cab HCPU into tray back

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
    I don't know if this is the thread you were reading, but there are a few options and opinions listed.

    fuel filler 130 ute

    James.
    Thanks, yes I saw that but aside from the Hilux suggestion, most of the solutions don't suit my setup. I'll have a canopy covering all of the tray so going through the floor isn't an option.


    Quote Originally Posted by 2stroke View Post
    Edit; I used the proper Landy filler not some crappy hilux thing. I use a Hilux for work and it's the must annoying filler in the world!
    I know it mightn't be ideal but I need to resolve this by monday and I think sourcing a original part might be tricky. I can always address this in the future.

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    Surely you could get one off an old series 111 at the wreckers? Biggest problem with the hilux filler is it's much smaller than the Landy tank filler tube. Also with a 127 L tank in mine it's handy to use the hiflow diesel bowser.

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    If I can find one that would be awesome. Not sure how I'll go over the weekend. I'm in South of Sydney in the illawarra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2stroke View Post
    Surely you could get one off an old series 111 at the wreckers? Biggest problem with the hilux filler is it's much smaller than the Landy tank filler tube. Also with a 127 L tank in mine it's handy to use the hiflow diesel bowser.
    With the tray on my 110, there isn't much slope on the filler neck, so when I use a hi-flow nozzle, I can't take advantage of the maximum rate of delivery. In fact with some diesel, I have to be a bit cautious even with the normal nozzle otherwise it spills froth and/or triggers the auto shutoff.

    If you are planning to mount the tray high enough to create storage space underneath, you may be able to get a bit more slope on the filler tube. That isn't really an option for me because it would make the camper inconveniently high.

    1973 Series III LWB 1983 - 2006
    1998 300 Tdi Defender Trayback 2006 - often fitted with a Trayon slide-on camper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    With the tray on my 110, there isn't much slope on the filler neck, so when I use a hi-flow nozzle, I can't take advantage of the maximum rate of delivery. In fact with some diesel, I have to be a bit cautious even with the normal nozzle otherwise it spills froth and/or triggers the auto shutoff.

    If you are planning to mount the tray high enough to create storage space underneath, you may be able to get a bit more slope on the filler tube. That isn't really an option for me because it would make the camper inconveniently high.
    Your setup sounds close to what we're trying to achieve. I'm worried about the tray height creeping up. The canopy I have has a lip below the doors and a very substantial chassis which increase the access height. I can forego the storage space under the tray if it keeps the deck lower.

    If it was at all possible - would you be able to give me the amount of clearence you have between the underneath of the tray and the top of your chassis. Perhaps you could measure somewhere I could check against (the bump stops?)

    Many thanks, Paul

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    My tray is aluminium with 40mm deep ribs underneath. With the standard 235/85/16 tyres, I was able to rub the tyres on the ribs in extreme cross axle situations. My solution was to remove a small section of the ribs where the tyres rubbed to give me almost 40mm more travel before the tyres rubbed.

    The measurements from the underneath of the tray (not the bottom of the 40mm ribs) are:
    At the front to the flat section of the chassis where the towers are mounted to support the front of the tray - 380mm.
    To the top of those towers - 215mm (made up of 75mm transverse steel C section and 100mm longitudinal aluminium C section and 40mm ribs).
    At the rear to the chassis cross member - 265mm.

    Does that make sense? Do those measurements tell you what you need to know?

    1973 Series III LWB 1983 - 2006
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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    My tray is aluminium with 40mm deep ribs underneath. With the standard 235/85/16 tyres, I was able to rub the tyres on the ribs in extreme cross axle situations. My solution was to remove a small section of the ribs where the tyres rubbed to give me almost 40mm more travel before the tyres rubbed.

    The measurements from the underneath of the tray (not the bottom of the 40mm ribs) are:
    At the front to the flat section of the chassis where the towers are mounted to support the front of the tray - 380mm.
    To the top of those towers - 215mm (made up of 75mm transverse steel C section and 100mm longitudinal aluminium C section and 40mm ribs).
    At the rear to the chassis cross member - 265mm.

    Does that make sense? Do those measurements tell you what you need to know?
    Thanks so much for those measurements, when my wife brings the truck back I'll go and compare

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    Does that make sense? Do those measurements tell you what you need to know?
    I think these measurements will be extremely useful when the tub is off and we're locating the new tray. Could I be cheeky and ask that you might take one more measurement? The height from the ground to the top of the tray where the camper sits would be fantastic. I really appreciate your help.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2stroke View Post
    Surely you could get one off an old series 111 at the wreckers? Biggest problem with the hilux filler is it's much smaller than the Landy tank filler tube. Also with a 127 L tank in mine it's handy to use the hiflow diesel bowser.
    With regards to the filler neck, I'm a bit stuck. I tried several wreckers in the area, looking for any diesel neck off a tray back ute without luck.

    I had hoped to get the tray fitted on monday but without a filler neck ready to go I may have to put the project on hold for a few days until I get it sorted. It's a bugger as I wanted to use the flat tray for a job on wednesday.

    After living with the 130 for a couple of days now, I do question why I'm removing such a beautiful piece of kit for a second hand aluminium tray It took this today whilst at the boat ramp, I scratch my head and wonder if I'm really doing the right thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by iClick View Post
    The height from the ground to the top of the tray where the camper sits would be fantastic.
    Today, with nothing on the tray and only minimal pressure in the airbags, I have 140mm gap between the axle and the bump stops. The top surface of the tray is 1010mm from the ground measured beside the wheel. When the camper is in place, it sits on 45mm wooden rails. I needed to use them to raise it enough for the drawers to clear the 30mm lip on the top of the tray.

    Tomorrow I will be able to tell you what those measurements are with the camper on board and 20psi in the airbags. I will be fitting the camper in readiness for a few days in Bendethera with Tank and with Mr Ploppy and his wife and two children.

    I think that with the airbags, it only settles about 20mm. I will try to remember to check the measurements tomorrow.

    1973 Series III LWB 1983 - 2006
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    G'Day i click,

    I wouldn't worry too much about the filler neck - just use the factory one already fitted to your HCPU tub.

    Thats how it was done on my tray, you'll find that the whole filler neck unbolts from the tub and then you should be able to use it and the original hose between the filler and the tank.

    My filler was like this, with a fairly simple bracket to hold it welded to the bottom edge of the tray. This way you retain the factory filler and the locking cap as well. Much better that one from a ***ota etc.

    By the way, I went the other way - converted the tray back to the tub, as you say a really well designed bit of kit. I've still got the tray in the shed though, just in case.....

    Cheers,

    Mike.

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