Thread: Traction control is NO substitute for a Locker. Ha!

cant remember exactly but I think it had something to do with the steering or braking or something.....Send JC a PM he might be able to point you in the direction of the thread it was discussed in

Originally Posted by THE BOOGER

Sounds like an idea some time after the 19th jan would be good. have to get past my youngest daughters wedding With deefers and older series having a spotter makes a big difference following trucks the same also helps with your line and learning what they can do and how they work. So how about the australia day week end?

After the 19th sounds great, I have a 50th Birthday on the 19th Sat. So Sun onwards free. You guys set it, I'll try work around the Birthday. Keen as curry.

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Don't know why but I have a theory about traction,I've been around awhile and can remember being out Bathurst way with the Sydney LR club when both a defender,the bloke with the JIL plates and another guy with a twin locked D1 both got stuck in a large ditch,my turn came and my mighty 2.25ltre series 3 SWB drove through like it wasn't there,open rover diffed with 7.50x16 tyres.I've owned quite a few different vehicles with different traction aids and trailed with many more and I honestly believe either of my series SWB's would do them all in all but the most demanding conditions,in the two years I've been in Newman I've seen a twin locked cruiser get humbled by a rodeo,a 200 series get humiliated by a stock D1 and my mates rubicon didn't do well at all against my TDCi.Such is the way the wheel turns. Pat

Babs, Before you go and take more driving lessons you need to practice a couple of wheel placement activities

1. can hitting.

Find a large empty car park and chuck some empty cans around it then spend a couple of hours hitting the cans with the tyres then once they are all nice and flat practice stopping with the tyres on the cans

2. Cross angling.

Practice driving the vehicle diagonally across kerbs so that the 2 diagonally opposite wheels go from kerb to ground (and vice versa) at the same time do this for both directions.

did you want a description of how the TC works or have you got an idea about it now?

Originally Posted by Babs

After the 19th sounds great, I have a 50th Birthday on the 19th Sat. So Sun onwards free. You guys set it, I'll try work around the Birthday. Keen as curry.

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I,ll put somthing up in the upcoming events for the weekend of the 26th will see what day is prefered

Babs,
Inside popped around yesterday and we put his Freelander through the ditch outside my house. It was cross axed with about 400mm of air under both wheels. Initially it sat there, but once it worked out what was in order, the traction took over and he drove out slow and steady with 0 wheel spin. It took maybe 2 or 3 seconds of steady low revs for it to get organised. I know for me sitting in a car for 2 or 3 seconds doing that would seem like eternity unless you were expecting it.
maybe something to keep in mind with learning the TC curve.

I know this is a TC vs lockers threads but I think the bigger issue with TC is in soft sand or mud where I find it very frustrating in when the engine is revving and there is no forward momentum. On Moreton recently this occured to the point where the clutch started slipping so either the TC is too good or the clutch is not good enough!

I don't want to dig holes but sometimes you just need a bit of forward momentum.

Hi Nugget. Not doubting your bad experience with trc on Moreton but something is wrong there. I know I own a disco but I can't see it being too different. I have owned my manual box d2 since new in 02. It's a v8. I have used it extensively in sand at Straddie and I have taken it to Fraser in some of its driest times. I have towed on Straddie and recovered a lot of vehicles including on Main in the dry weather. I have been doing that when new with 29 in tyres and 3 open diffs with only traction control. What I like about ETC In the Disco is that there is zero engine retardation versus the Japanese brands. I assume Deefer is the same?

When I went to 31's and retrofitted the CDL I was in sand Nirvana. I was also able to try it with CDL engaged and ETC fully off and also with both together. Both together wins. I have been a smart pants and set the tyres to road pressure to get to the barge and got stuck towing over a tonn up a cut up soft cutting. ETC helped it to crawl out when the tyre pressures were dropped. When it was new I towed a 2.2 tonn dual axle road van with road clearance and cheese cutters into Flinders with open diffs. The traction control was working hard but it did what the vehicle could not have done without it at that stage with no CDL.
Cheers