Thread: Baby Seat in 2012 Puma

Shall do - counting down the days...

I was initially worried that the crab bar would get in the way, but its pretty close the back of the rear seats... Plus the seats will always be fitted and it means the attachment points are up off the floor allowing you to fit a drawer system if required. It unbolts easily too.

I don't think the floor-mounted points were allowable here in WA...?

Anyway, just more things to consider

I had a pair of floor mounted anchor points fitted to a Puma 90 by WesbarVanquip in Perth. The anchor points were fixed on the floor and through a steel crossmember on the underside. Perhaps an alternative solution to the CRAB bar for you.

Originally Posted by DefenderJim

So with the first born now well on his way I thought it was time to think about how we are going to travel with him. The Puma (2012 110) manual just says car seats must be properly secured and to ensure child seat is appropriate..yada yada, no information on mounting points.

So question is, does the Puma have any or do we need to get some put in?

Cheers
Jim

Hi Jim

As others have said the Puma's commercial rating doesn't require the manufacturer to fit the child bolt. This thread has been up before and you need to be aware that in SA the system appears to be a bit different from the advice you will get from members in other states. I had a child seat bolt installed in the rear floor for my County 110 15 years ago by the local dealer in Port Lincoln. Since then child seat bolts have become mandatory in new cars so I investigated why I wasn't getting one when I bought a new defender as I thought I was getting conned. However, the new defenders definitely don't come with them and you will need to get one fitted. Willshire motor trimmers Seat Belts, Child Restraints, Anchor Points - Adelaide Motor Trimmers on South Road, Marleston did an excellent job on my TD5 defender in 2003 and then again in 2009 with my 2009 Puma. Both times it was under $100. For the TD5 they put the bolt (with a plate) in the floor behind the back seat (like I had in County110) and in my current Puma 110 wagon they put it in the side of the wheel arch box thingy (see pics).
I recommend having your child seat installed behind the front passenger seat. If you are driving you can then see the child out of the corner of your eye and can pass water bottles etc at traffic lights or when stopped without having to get out of your seat. More importantly if the child is forward facing, they can see you all the time. Of course if it is a newborn and your partner is always travelling with you and the child you might prefer the seat behind the driver so that your partner has easier access to the child whilst you are driving. However my experience has been that the older children require the attention while you are driving (food, snacks, toys etc) and not the babies.
Having the seat in the centre position is a major pain in the a$## for getting a child in and out of the seat for a high vehicle like the defender.
With Willshire I just took the seat in and told them where I wanted it and they installed the bolt to fit the seat.

I installed the Milford cargo barrier after the seat bolt because at the time Milford hadn't developed the cargo barrier yet for the Puma. Everything works fine but removing the child seat (eg for travelling on a plane or in a friends car, etc) is more fiddly and awkward than it needs to be and takes 10 minutes rather than 2 minutes because of the close proximity of the bolt/strap clip and the cargo barrier.

Hope this helps
Mark

Hi Jim & everyone else

Well I'm pretty excited - just got home in the defender. Can't get the smile off my face! Which is all nice, but I promised picks of the seat bolt install. See the attached pics (the first is a shot with one of my best mates). I'm pretty happy with the job. It's nice & neat - maybe lr can get around to doing something similar themselves. The job itself wasn't that expensive but the engineering certificate was not cheap. Adrian at Landrover Macarthur was the guy that organised the job & he said he's happy for people to call if they're interested in getting details of the engineering firm. Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Gav

Hi jim ,i've been reading the posts with great interest . The fact that there are no fixing points , for your baby seat is a good piont .I think that most modern cars have child restraintpionts as standdard . The ones i've used for my grandchildren were just a clip held by a bolt.. My question is this ? Why can't you use the seat belt fixing point on the floor . as it is designed to restrain an adult ...regards jimr1 ..

Those anchor points on the seat back look excellent! I agree, Land Rover need to do this from the factory........
I installed what they call a Defender bar, which is very similar to a CRAB bar. It is much more cumbersome! I wish I knew that was possible beforehand.....

Cheers

Originally Posted by gcl381

Hi Jim & everyone else

Well I'm pretty excited - just got home in the defender. Can't get the smile off my face! Which is all nice, but I promised picks of the seat bolt install. See the attached pics (the first is a shot with one of my best mates). I'm pretty happy with the job. It's nice & neat - maybe lr can get around to doing something similar themselves. The job itself wasn't that expensive but the engineering certificate was not cheap. Adrian at Landrover Macarthur was the guy that organised the job & he said he's happy for people to call if they're interested in getting details of the engineering firm. Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Gav

Originally Posted by gcl381

Hi Jim & everyone else

Well I'm pretty excited - just got home in the defender. Can't get the smile off my face! Which is all nice, but I promised picks of the seat bolt install. See the attached pics (the first is a shot with one of my best mates). I'm pretty happy with the job. It's nice & neat - maybe lr can get around to doing something similar themselves. The job itself wasn't that expensive but the engineering certificate was not cheap. Adrian at Landrover Macarthur was the guy that organised the job & he said he's happy for people to call if they're interested in getting details of the engineering firm. Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Gav

Thanks for posting the photos! This is the best solution I've seen. This solution would be well worth seeking out, except perhaps if you were planning on installing a cargo barrier - then it might be a pain to access the anchor points. Definitely would be the best solution for a 7 seater puma.

I like the colour combo - which green is that?