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    I bought a steering guard with recovery points from APT, Defender steering guard (AF1020)

    They advertise on here up the top, great service and looks the biz, and has taken a couple of knocks, it has build in recovery points and bolted straight up.

    Cheers Pat


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    That looks the business Pat

    Genuine jate rings are GBP45 each - GBP90 for two, plus postage - maybe AUD160 all up

    Another 100 bucks and you've got a steering guard... attractive.

    Does it fit using existing holes? Fit with bullbar?

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    Pat,

    That guard looks like it will do the job!

    I might need to replace mine after the last trip to the Perth Hills where my anti-stall decided we need to go a bit faster accross the rock steps...

    Cheers,

    Lou

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    Quote Originally Posted by patclan View Post
    I bought a steering guard with recovery points from APT, Defender steering guard (AF1020)

    They advertise on here up the top, great service and looks the biz, and has taken a couple of knocks, it has build in recovery points and bolted straight up.

    Cheers Pat

    Pat,

    Do you know if this would fit onto a defender with one of the landrover bull bars fitted?

    I just had a bull bar put on and they removed my jate rings in the process as they don't fit anymore. What's worse is the "landrover" bullbar does not come with recovery points.the bullbat is an arb lookalike but with outer the shackle points.

    So now I have none and am looking for a quick solution.

    Thanks,

    Brad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samblers View Post
    Just had another crawl under the defender.

    Annoyingly, the wider jate rings (part ZXC9435) I see quoted dimensions of 95.5mm to 97mm between the internal faces.

    I measure 98-100mm required with steering guard and my ARB bullbar fitted using the same bolt hole

    Anyone else fitted jate rings and a bullbar/steering guard?
    I managed to get some 'widened' JATE rings over the steering guard and ARB bar. Took about 3 hours and lots of swearing as the forged JATE rings are very springy and need to be opened up a little while lining up all the components.

    Won't attempt it again in a hurry but it is possible.

    In my engineering experience i wouldn't use the ARB for snatch recovery. In fact from a pure engineering and safety perspective I wouldn't use a snatch except for something very minor - such as popping the rear wheels over a sand hill provided the fronts have made it. No requirement for the big run ups seen on videos - get a shovel and have a coffee :thumbup:

    Cheers Glenn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbmoz View Post
    Pat,

    Do you know if this would fit onto a defender with one of the landrover bull bars fitted?

    I just had a bull bar put on and they removed my jate rings in the process as they don't fit anymore. What's worse is the "landrover" bullbar does not come with recovery points.the bullbat is an arb lookalike but with outer the shackle points.

    So now I have none and am looking for a quick solution.

    Thanks,

    Brad
    Hi Brad, Just noticed this post, when I spoke to them about it fitting with a TJM bar they said it should be no problem as they designed it to fit with any bar, but a quick call to them would clarify it they are very helpful.

    thanks
    Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennWA View Post
    I managed to get some 'widened' JATE rings over the steering guard and ARB bar. Took about 3 hours and lots of swearing as the forged JATE rings are very springy and need to be opened up a little while lining up all the components.

    Won't attempt it again in a hurry but it is possible.
    This is what i ended up doing, including the swearing bit

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    Aren't Jate rings for lifting not recoveries?

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    Something to consider, steering guards like posted below have a tendency to bind on 2" lifted trucks (technically 2" extra droop). Brand of guard and shock used will be the deciding factor. I had a 35mm lift and there was mm of clearance to my steering guard at full droop. After i went to long travel shocks i had to remove the steering guard.

    As for the engineering strength of an incorporated steering guard to snatch off. I'd be weary. That said there is no off the shelf solution. Safe snatching demands over engineering for everyone's sake.

    If memory serves me correct there is no crush tube in the section of chassis through which the jate bolt passes. Thus if you go jate rings you might need to put in a bit of tube to prevent crushing the chassis. If i'm wrong then i've caused you to think about an important part of the structural integrity of the mounting point.

    MLD

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    I see no reason why the chassis would crush with jate rings - the load is taken by the mounting bolts in shear.

    I liked the look of the steering guard under consideration but the side plates are 8mm or 10mm plate (cant recall which), and this was not enough for me for recovery points. Fabricated recovery points are more like 20mm.

    I fitted jate rings - the forged LR ones.

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