Thread: Puma snorkel warning

The whole issue is the sealing from the snorkel to the air box. All the snorkel options are water proof, wether they are LR, Mantec, Safari ......

The issue starts by trying to seal the snorkel to guard. Not so easy !

Then, the factory ducting is a throw away. Sure the instruction say use SikaFlex to seal it......but have you tried it, SikaFelx ( or anything else ) doesn't stick to that type of plastic, it just peels off.

So the ducting MUST be replaced, simple as that !

And......even if you install a system that is totally sealed from the tip of the snorkel to the air box. The air box lid leaks like a siv and its right at the font of the bonnet, where water is push straight over it.

Originally Posted by nugge t

That is excellent that they are doing that.

Do they recommend doing anything at the air filter box end?

I certainly do not remember that being included when I fitted mine a few years back, or it being included in the Airtec instructions when we fitted Witchdoctors....could be corrected on that as I have turfed the instructions but neither Dave or I remember it.

hi nugget, yeah my instructions mentioned to sikaflex the plastic duct to the inner air box in the guard, to sikaflex the actual snorkel to the guard, and also came with new rivets to drill out the air filter air box pull out the air box and sikaflex the duct into the air filter box. As drover mentioned though the actual air filter box leaks through the top lid easilly and also the little drain valves have a good chance of leaking in both air boxes so it is a bit of a job to seal this system totally up. You're solution looks simple and great and I would be buying one for sure if I hadn't already spent all the time tinkering with my current setup.

Originally Posted by Drover

The whole issue is the sealing from the snorkel to the air box. All the snorkel options are water proof, wether they are LR, Mantec, Safari ......

The issue starts by trying to seal the snorkel to guard. Not so easy !

Then, the factory ducting is a throw away. Sure the instruction say use SikaFlex to seal it......but have you tried it, SikaFelx ( or anything else ) doesn't stick to that type of plastic, it just peels off.

So the ducting MUST be replaced, simple as that !

And......even if you install a system that is totally sealed from the tip of the snorkel to the air box. The air box lid leaks like a siv and its right at the font of the bonnet, where water is push straight over it.

so how to seal the air box lid?

Originally Posted by gitney

hi nugget, yeah my instructions mentioned to sikaflex the plastic duct to the inner air box in the guard, to sikaflex the actual snorkel to the guard, and also came with new rivets to drill out the air filter air box pull out the air box and sikaflex the duct into the air filter box. As drover mentioned though the actual air filter box leaks through the top lid easilly and also the little drain valves have a good chance of leaking in both air boxes so it is a bit of a job to seal this system totally up. You're solution looks simple and great and I would be buying one for sure if I hadn't already spent all the time tinkering with my current setup.

Excellent. I wonder if they actually do that as removing the airfilter box on these is a total PIA if you haven't done it before. There is actually a significant gap in the join at this end as the air filter box has a join in it which definitely needs filling.

I was never comfortable with the "no clamps" concept apart from the massive gaps. Just feel a whole lot more comfortable with some pressure holding it together.

As said never trust them any off them to be waterproof.

Even If you have fitted them or a dealer.

Originally Posted by gitney

Hi all,
If you install a safari snorkel yourselves or get a reputable installer and they follow the safari installation instructions that come with the snorkel, They clearly show you how to separate these suspect joins and seal them up with sikaflex or similar.
This although arguably not as good as nuggets aftermarket fix does do the job well if your diligent with the sealant.

Sorry for my ignorance but what is nugget's fix. I am asking this because I have my new defender booked in at a reputable workshop specialising in LR and they are installing a safari.
Do you think I should be speaking to them?
Also, this workshop recommended against Mantec or LR version as it is not waterproof, but they said if i insisted on LR version they can modify it, it was too expensive anyway.

Have a look in the verandah and you will see nuggets fix. It replaces everything between the snorkel and the air filter which is the most concerning section as it doesn't matter how well fitted or waterproof your snorkel is if you leave this section as is you don't have a waterproof air intake.

Originally Posted by chook73

Have a look in the verandah and you will see nuggets fix. It replaces everything between the snorkel and the air filter which is the most concerning section as it doesn't matter how well fitted or waterproof your snorkel is if you leave this section as is you don't have a waterproof air intake.

Thanks, got that.