hmm picking the rear hub is the part that is holding me up for doing this.. watching with interest.
Why are front ones used rather than rear ones?
Interesting. I've got both a drum braked and a converted diff in the shed, so will have a look tonight.
I'm running 0 offset wheels with 255/85's so have never had any rubbing issues.
I'm currently running one with Defender hubs/stubs, so I'll try and measure that too and see how it compares.
Was rear track the same on all 80's/90's 110's ??
Steve
1985 County - Isuzu 4bd1 with HX30W turbo, LT95, 255/85-16 KM2's
1988 120 with rust and potential
1999 300tdi 130 single cab - "stock as bro"
2003 D2a Td5 - the boss's daily drive
hmm picking the rear hub is the part that is holding me up for doing this.. watching with interest.
Why are front ones used rather than rear ones?
Hercules: 1986 110 Isuzu 3.9 (4BD1-T)
Brutus: 1969 109 ExMil 2a FFT (loved and lost)
Basically because the County front hubs have the wider bearing spacing and will go straight on to the rear County stub axle (earlier models)
We tried to work out this conversion using parts that are reasonably easy to obtain, new or second hand, and also minimum of changes, for example, retaining the rear stub axles.
You can refer back to the start of this thread for part numbers etc.
Cheers, Murray
'88 County Isuzu 4Bd1 Turbo Intercooled, '96 Defender 130 CC VNT
'85 Isuzu 120 Trayback, '72 SIIA SWB Diesel Soft Top
'56 SI Ute Cab
Murray (rijidij)
I hope you haven't taken my post the wrong way, I and others I am sure, are very grateful for the work you have done, its just something I had found that I though may be useful.
Regards Jim
Hercules: 1986 110 Isuzu 3.9 (4BD1-T)
Brutus: 1969 109 ExMil 2a FFT (loved and lost)
Not at all Jim, no problem,
You never know what parts us Landy owners have lying around the shed, so any alternative ideas are welcome.
Hopefully this thread will be a good start for anyone doing a conversion, but it's by no means the only way of going about it.
Cheers, Murray
'88 County Isuzu 4Bd1 Turbo Intercooled, '96 Defender 130 CC VNT
'85 Isuzu 120 Trayback, '72 SIIA SWB Diesel Soft Top
'56 SI Ute Cab
I've just been out to the shed and run a tape measure over some diffs to check the dimension between the hub faces (that the wheel rim sits against).
County diff converted with county front hubs: ~1532mm
County diff converted with FTC1740 Defender stubs, and narrow bearing spaced D1/Defender hubs: ~1555mm
County front diff (standard): ~1555mm
Using County front hubs is definitely about 10mm narrower per side (as Jim highlighted earlier).
For anyone with concerns about how this affects the vehicle handling etc, I've run the County front hub converted setup on mine for around 20K km's and never noticed any difference apart from the hugely improved brakingKeeping in mind thats with 0 offset rims and 255/85-16's....
I'm now running the narrow bearing D1/Defender hubs (so back to original dimensions), but only because I needed axles and I got a good deal on some Defender Maxi-drive ones. I had to fit the Defender hubs/stubs to suit the shorter axle lengths.
Steve
Last edited by Ranga; 19th September 2013 at 04:20 PM. Reason: Changed "County diff converted with county front hubs: ~1332mm" to 1532mm on request from SteveG
1985 County - Isuzu 4bd1 with HX30W turbo, LT95, 255/85-16 KM2's
1988 120 with rust and potential
1999 300tdi 130 single cab - "stock as bro"
2003 D2a Td5 - the boss's daily drive
Steve
My Defender is a 1991 drum brake rear, the middle axle is a drum brake through-drive Rover diff. I have bought a D1 maxidrive rear axle which I was going to combine into my middle diff and use the maxi-axles, hubs and rotors.
The rear axle is a drum brake Salisbury.
What hubs do I need on the rear axle to match the middle diff and will the rear axles be the same track as the '91 Defender front?
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You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.
From what I can work out with the bits I've got here, D1/Defender hubs and the FTC1740 Defender stubs.
I'm not sure if your current sals axles are early long ones or the later short ones but you'll need short for that hub setup.
There are axle lengths listed on the Ashcroft site so just pull one and measure.
Steve
1985 County - Isuzu 4bd1 with HX30W turbo, LT95, 255/85-16 KM2's
1988 120 with rust and potential
1999 300tdi 130 single cab - "stock as bro"
2003 D2a Td5 - the boss's daily drive
When you convert to rear discs I assume you keep the er "brake thing" on the firewall?
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Hercules: 1986 110 Isuzu 3.9 (4BD1-T)
Brutus: 1969 109 ExMil 2a FFT (loved and lost)
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