Talk me into a Deefer vs a JK Unlimited

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Originally Posted by MR LR jnr.

Get a JK rubicon over an unlimited...

I come from a LR family so I'd get disowned if I didn't choose a Deefer haha, but in all seriousness if you aren't hell-bent on getting an LR the Jeep might be better for you.

Defenders have a love/hate personality.

Both would need the same number of mods I reckon, I think the Jeep would have the edge over the Defender for daily driving, the Defender would come into it's own out in the bush though.

Rubicons have the offroad pack.

Cheers
Will

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Trust me, I'd be in a JK Unlimited Rubicon right now if they came with a diesel engine. Sadly though, it is petrol only.

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Originally Posted by bemm52

Had to make a similar decision but threw the goofy looking retro Toyota into the mix.:eek:

Winner was Defender Puma 90...............(has decent stereo out of box if that's important):cool:

Have you tried asking this question on a Jeep forum we are all a little bit biased here.:angel:

So far as SWMBO's daily driver and my weekend toy no complaints

Cheers Paul

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Yeah, asking the same question over at ausjeepoffroad.com. If you're referring to the FJ Cruiser, I did consider it, but no diesel, and IFS ruled it out for me.

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Originally Posted by debruiser

If you like to carry plenty of gear look towards the 110. I have a 90 and there is nothing big about it. 90's also only have a 60L tank so they dont go too far on a tank - I budget 500kms. Did however drive it for 14hrs straight a month back then in 2 days for 5hrs then another 9hrs a couple days after. Most comfy car EVER!

I like the stereo in my 90, it's a 2013 so has the Alpine head with bluetooth and a sub.

I find heavy traffic crawling pretty good, 1st gives a nice slow crawl, i've even been known to idle along in 2nd to match speeds (rather than reving in 1st). I have no trouble with city driving, obviously a defender is no Z350...

I drive my old stock height LR around where everyone else needs lifts.

I dont know much about jeeps... I would agree with 2stroke - drive both, see what you like best and what will suit you better.

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Great info there, I think If I were to go with a Deefer it would have to be a 110.

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Originally Posted by Fraz

Agree here. But the only ones that hate are those that chose the other :)

Read into lifting a Puma. There are some issues with the front prop shaft. Some have this problem and some don't. Its not hard to fit a proper shaft, but it is an added cost that you may not have known about.

The Jeep would be better for the hwy, but you wouldnt want to take all that shinyness off road. This is where the Defender wins :)

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That's the conundrum - I need something comfy and economical to get to and from work, but don't want to be left behind on the trails, by my mates in Hilux's and Patrols.

Thanks all for the info.

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Originally Posted by MR LR jnr.

Get a JK rubicon over an unlimited...

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No not so. Rubicon don't come in Diesel.

Buy an Unlimited Sport, with the money saved you can aftermarket it up to get a better vehicle than a Rubi,

Ive been right thru this argument myself in the last few weeks. But more for a full time off road Tourer / towing tug.

Sorry Im asking too much. Landrover and Jeep both lose. Top dog so far is the Iveco Daily 4x4 dual cab, but it wont fit the OP bill, not the greatest commuter.

The standard stereo is great. I added a Pioneer head unit for Bluetooth and a Sub Woofer but I think the 2013 comes with this. Do you intend to tow? The LR has a much better towing capacity. I doubt you will get 9L/100km with the LR. 11L/100km is more like it. I have a 90 and if I had to choose again I would get a 110. If you take the back seats out it will be fine but I find it a little small. I don't know what the jeep is like standard, but, you really dont need to do anything to a LR to improve offroad performance. I find the seats in the LR extremely comfortable on long trips. If you buy a LR you get to be a member of this forum and chat to awesome blokes like us.

I had a ride in a stock standard Jeep, the current shorty Wrangler, a few months ago. I thought the ride was terrible, not a patch on my 110. May be better on the highway I suppose.
Have you had a sit in a Defender yet? Some body shapes apparently don't fit so well. It's likely an American car could fit any belly size...

Depends what you want to do

This might help! a little long but says something

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmTgP7Lchc0"]Canning stock route . Full Movie. - YouTube[/ame]

I think the Jeep is impractical as tourer. The load space is too small.

Defender drivers are also nicer. Owning a Defender you are in a small elite club and people will drive for miles just to come over and say hello. The Jeep drivers I know don't even wave at each other.

I owed a Jeep Grand for a while and it was the most comfy car I have owed plus it had lots of fancy bits and pieces, but it was a V8 that liked petrol, a lot, great to drive very competent off road although a little weird until you got used to how it diff steered. The minister for war also liked it as well so I sold it.
Brought a Defender 130 D/Cab, ripped out the back seats and set that up as I wanted chipped, overdrive (roverdrive) put Stratco seats in the front, running on Bridgestones very good on the road, a little noisy I have sound proofed it although it needs more, have towed a 2t Kimberley Kamper through the Holland Track when it poured down and that was fun.
Defender's are solid and proven, the thing with Jeeps in my opinion is that they are a great car but if you want to put goodies in/on them then you will pay the dollars unless you are willing to invest some time to order your own parts through the USA. The yanks are good to deal with and get your stuff to you quicker and cheaper than here. I looked at cost, bang for buck and the fact I break things and the Defender wins for me. My two cents worth, Go to the jeep forums they are a good bunch as well.

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Originally Posted by jasonedu

I think the Jeep is impractical as tourer. The load space is too small.

Defender drivers are also nicer. Owning a Defender you are in a small elite club and people will drive for miles just to come over and say hello. The Jeep drivers I know don't even wave at each other.

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Funny as, and its the same over here, Defender drivers 95% of the time wave to one another, those that don't, well we won't go there.

I haven't driven the Jeep but in auto form it has to be better to drive around town than a Defender. My 2.2 still feels a bit weird to me with its funny engine flare and hesitation thing. The Defender will not do 9L/100km so apparently Jeep wins there. And if you're serious about it needing to do better than the 700km from 65L of your 350Z, then that counts it out right there. I'd buy the Defender (well, I did - six of them now). Drive one and tell us what you think.

From what you want a Disco would suit you better.