Originally Posted by 
Cracka
				
			 
			Well I don't know what I was doing but I missed your reply Sam, sorry, wow time gets away.
But I have to agree with Vlad.  If I can get a tube bumper that weighs around 35kgs, then add a winch both of them might add up to the weight of the ARB bar alone!!!!!!!!!!!!  (I'm not saying I want a tube bumper, I'm just using that as an example.)
Or not............because I don't know what one weighs, I have been told figures of about 65kgs :eek: but I'll never know unless I go out and BLINDLY buy one.  That would be like buying the defender without doing your research on the vehicle first.  I'm not going to shell out close to $1500 unless I know what I'm buying.
This is why we need to know specific weights, yes we remove items, but the weight of a defender standard bar isn't that much.  I have kept track of EVERYTHING I have been taking off and extras added to my 90 just to know how FAT its getting.  I can then decide what items I actually NEED, or just think I need :D
And like Vlad, I too like the look of the bar, but I don't want a ships anchor at the front of the 90 either.
Mick