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Thread: Opinion on the Defender 130 TD5 - buy or avoid?

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    Opinion on the Defender 130 TD5 - buy or avoid?

    I’ve got theoretical permission to get another 130 (I lieu of the disco).

    I’d prefer a really good Tdi but ones without rust or significant work needed are pretty thin on the ground !

    I am a bit cautious but was wondering what your opinion of the TD5 is – worth getting or not?

    I have heard of some significant problems (especially with early ones) and can;t afford to be getting one requiring work and am a bit worried re: maintenance costs.

    All advice and comments of a constructive nature are welcomed !
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    Oh no, you've started another Tdi vs. Td5 debate...

    Prepare for a load of answers completely contradicting each other, followed by the suggestion that a Puma is the best...

    You will be even more confused!

    Personally I'd buy a cooked Td5 and fit a Duramax...

    Will

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    he he he yeah I'd buy a Puma if I had anywhere near enough cash.

    The last thing I need is the hassle of rebuilding a car, fitting a new engine etc.




    Edit: I just spoke to a mate who used to work for LR and he said he wouldn't buy a TD5 if I paid him!


    If I could get a good Tdi I would definitely go that way.
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    I bought a 2002 TD5 a few years back it has never let me down but has cost me quite a bit over time.
    I think a well sorted TD5 is a good thing but a bad one is to be avoided the fact that mine had been poorly maintained cost me over $7K something as simple as the wrong coolant can be expensive,
    This is not a uniquely TD5 issue.
    I don't believe that they are overly complex or the nightmare that the naysayers said back in 1999.

    Would I do it again? Yes but only because its a hobby which is why I keep spending.

    If I wanted to buy a second hand TD5 and drive it for years without spending money I think I would be deluding myself. This would apply to any vehicle that I buy apart from my wife's car that just gets driven around town.

    Service records are vital in your case in my opinion.

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    Seriously do a search... there must be a million threads on this.

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    Consider:

    Before I got mine I didn't know anything about engines, apart from the fact that they went bang and the wheels turned.
    Td5 is dead easy to work on and a far superior engine to the Tdi IMHO.
    As said, do a search, this is becoming flogging a zombie horse it's been done so many times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VladTepes View Post
    he he he yeah I'd buy a Puma if I had anywhere near enough cash.

    The last thing I need is the hassle of rebuilding a car, fitting a new engine etc.




    Edit: I just spoke to a mate who used to work for LR and he said he wouldn't buy a TD5 if I paid him!


    If I could get a good Tdi I would definitely go that way.
    We used to own a well respected (it no longer exists) LR dealership in Sydney, we've run 3 Td5's for 10 years...

    And yes it was a workshop too, so we saw all the problems.

    But they are the vehicles we've kept the longest, 1 is sold, replaced with a D4, the other two still rack up daily driving k's, I had a Tdi, a Td5 is better all round, unless you aren't interested in power or doing maintenance at all.

    I'd suggest your mate hasn't actually driven one properly.

    Will

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    Well everyone is entitled to an opinion - he worked for LR for MANY years from the time he apprenticed there and worked his way well up the ranks. Anyway...

    I am quite happy with my Disco Tdi engine wise so the outtright power etc of a Td5 (or lack of it for a Tdi) is not a deal breaker for me.

    The relative cost of injectors etc on a CRD probably is !


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    There's a difference between driving and working on them. I doubt he worked there since 1960 though... haha

    If reliability and longevity, with simple maintenance is your thing, I'd go a Tdi, I miss mine, however I prefer DD'ing the Td5, I do a lot of highway driving.

    Will

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    In my opinion, i think you need to get used to using a set of tools. Start some DIY projects on the car. They are 10-15yr old cars now and like any other car of that age, require attention.

    I'm sure you will enjoy either engine, but be pre-pared to do some work yourself, otherwise you will hate it purely for the money involved to pay a mechanic, who himself might not know exactly what he's doing and charge you an arm and a leg.

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