Thread: 3.2 Ford Ranger Transplant.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Can I ask if the 2.2 and 3.2 use the same manual box?
Also, does the 3.2 need stiffer suspension for the weight difference?

both the 2.2 and 3.2 ranger engines use the MT82 box (core) same as the Puma defender. The difference between the ranger and defender is the extension housing to the TFC and the bell housing for the 3.2 is about 10mm larger than the defender version for the larger flywheel. The bell housing bolt pattern is the same as far as i'm aware. The bell housing off the 2.2 in theory would be the same size as the defender because it's the clutch and flywheel that is the need for a larger bell housing on the 3.2. Glenn (Grinna65) might be able to clarify the 2.2.

as for HD suspension, D130 (or 110HD) front coils should be adequate. Someone with a county might know their coil rates to compare to the 130 coil rates (225 lbs/in), the isuzu is heavier than the 3.2 by a country mile.

I could be wrong but I think the front coils on a Defender are about 180 lb/in. The Defender HD front coils are the same as the standard 130 front coils.

So any chance this can be combined with an Auto box into the Defender?
Sorry found the post.
After spending yesterday looking at Disco 4's i have come to the conclusion that my defender is still the best car for me but keen on the power with a good auto so ill be watching this thread closely.

Originally Posted by timax

So any chance this can be combined with an Auto box into the Defender?

If you look back through this thread you will see i have already adressed this

This is an interesting thread still. To me what it comes down to is cost and intended use.
AFAIK a LS1-3 v8 will cost about $15-25,000, maybe more or less depending on which options you want and if you do any work yourself.
The 3.2 td5 could be a similar price, maybe more, maybe less??? with better efficiency, but less powerrrrrr
...
The td5, puma3.2 and tdi all weigh at least 50-120kg MORE than the ls3 which is about 185kg.
The ls1-3 has a few kits available, marks and the usa one are the first to mind. Also with the patrol hand grenade there are several places who are experienced at these types of conversions.
The puma3.2 will be efficient and good for distance towing, but if the majority % of your driving is low km short distance, a similar cost ls3 will pay for the extra fuel cost with a grin factor.

Originally Posted by frantic

This is an interesting thread still. To me what it comes down to is cost and intended use.
AFAIK a LS1-3 v8 will cost about $15-25,000, maybe more or less depending on which options you want and if you do any work yourself.
The 3.2 td5 could be a similar price, maybe more, maybe less??? with better efficiency, but less powerrrrrr
...
The td5, puma3.2 and tdi all weigh at least 50-120kg MORE than the ls3 which is about 185kg.
The ls1-3 has a few kits available, marks and the usa one are the first to mind. Also with the patrol hand grenade there are several places who are experienced at these types of conversions.
The puma3.2 will be efficient and good for distance towing, but if the majority % of your driving is low km short distance, a similar cost ls3 will pay for the extra fuel cost with a grin factor.

LS3 in our 90?...well even an LSA,...I'd love it,...but only a dream for me I'm afraid. Ya can buy crate engines for maybe $12-15K (LSA), but IMHO that's not the real cost, which probably would approach $40K at least by the time you install with transmission, diffs, brakes, electrics etc.
I see that Les Richmond are dropping an LS3 into a Puma as we speak,....I might go up for a sticky,...they seem to do quite a lot of this stuff,...they just installed an LSA into a Range Rover!
Pickles.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

LS3 in our 90?...well even an LSA,...I'd love it,...but only a dream for me I'm afraid. Ya can buy crate engines for maybe $12-15K (LSA), but IMHO that's not the real cost, which probably would approach $40K at least by the time you install with transmission, diffs, brakes, electrics etc.
I see that Les Richmond are dropping an LS3 into a Puma as we speak,....I might go up for a sticky,...they seem to do quite a lot of this stuff,...they just installed an LSA into a Range Rover!
Pickles.

Most conversion places doing patrols are costing drive in/out $15-25k ls1-3(used low km engines from ss crummydore/hsv wrecks ls1 go from about 1500 to around 5500 for a l98 and about 7-9 for a ls3 with auto attached.) with a 4l60 or better option ins 6180 (cant remember exact code off top of my head). The advantage with a defender is the exhaust will be easier as they used to have the old RRC v8, and less electronics than a patrol. Ive spoken to a few and they all seem around that figure even on a defender. Marks have a kit down your way in Melbourne, and another option is the Kit from the USA that doesn't move the transfer case.
Gearbox, use the GM auto, Diffs: get Ashcroft gear or hytuff etc. Maybe put in a ATB in the transfercase? A lot of us already have lockers or lsd/atb in their centres.
$40k is using a new engine, gearbox, and you ticking the W407 box id say?

For about $50k your looking at a 6.6 duramax....

Originally Posted by frantic

Most conversion places doing patrols are costing drive in/out $15-25k ls1-3(used low km engines from ss crummydore/hsv wrecks ls1 go from about 1500 to around 5500 for a l98 and about 7-9 for a ls3 with auto attached.) with a 4l60 or better option ins 6180 (cant remember exact code off top of my head). The advantage with a defender is the exhaust will be easier as they used to have the old RRC v8, and less electronics than a patrol. Ive spoken to a few and they all seem around that figure even on a defender. Marks have a kit down your way in Melbourne, and another option is the Kit from the USA that doesn't move the transfer case.
Gearbox, use the GM auto, Diffs: get Ashcroft gear or hytuff etc. Maybe put in a ATB in the transfercase? A lot of us already have lockers or lsd/atb in their centres.
$40k is using a new engine, gearbox, and you ticking the W407 box id say?

For about $50k your looking at a 6.6 duramax....

W407?...some sort of Walkinshaw upgrade?
Pickles.