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    2015 Defenders to have DSC

    From 'The 4WD Handbook' (Robert Pepper):

    "From 2015 Model Year the 90 station wagon and 110 Station wagon will be fitted with Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) as standard. This will be packaged with ABS and therefore means that these Defender models will have ABS with Electronic Traction Control (ETC) and DSC as standard. ABS will also be available for the first time on 130 wheel base Defender models"

    Why kill it off then?

    Michael
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    Guessing ... but the 2nd (and latest?) edition of the 4wd handbook is a couple of years old now, maybe that was the plan at the time?
    MY13 Defender 90 LE "George"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike_beecham View Post
    Why kill it off then?
    ESC is essentially a brake ECU update. It's an easy add on that gives the Defender another 12+ months life.

    Euro 6 emissions regulations take effect in either August 2015 or August 2016 depending on which class of the N1 category the Defender falls into. Apparently the 2.2 Puma can be made compliant without too much trouble, so it should make it past that hurdle.

    The very outer limit of Defender viability is 24/2/2018 when N1 category vehicles must comply with pedestrian protection regulation. This would require a complete redesign of the front end body work.

    Posing a hypothetical: Land Rover would need time to sell non-compliant Defenders through the dealer network prior to Feb 2018, so you'd have to assume MY2017 would be the latest "old skool" Defender Land Rover could build providing they choose to keep the life support switched on that long.

    cheers
    Paul

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    This quote came from Robert's Facebook site (The 4WD Handbook). So it is current I'd expect. I guess l am trying to decide WHEN too buy a new Defender. I want one with as much safety gear as l can get obviously.

    Michael
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    The quote is inaccurate however it is in its correct form on land rovers news site.

    can be found here:

    Land Rover Debuts Black Pack And Silver Pack Defenders At The 2014 Geneva International Motor Show

    The full quote is:

    Dynamic Stability Control
    From 2015 all UK and European specification Defenders will be fitted with Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) as standard. This will be packaged with ABS and therefore means that all new UK and European specification Defenders will have ABS with Electronic Traction Control (ETC) and DSC as standard. ABS will also be available for the first time on 130 wheel base Defender models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike_beecham View Post
    This quote came from Robert's Facebook site (The 4WD Handbook). So it is current I'd expect. I guess l am trying to decide WHEN too buy a new Defender. I want one with as much safety gear as l can get obviously.

    Michael
    why then, would you not buy a Disco. The basic charm of a Defender would be lost is you want it to have a swag of safety.
    Jason

    2010 130 TDCi

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    Um...because l want the Defender!

    I have had a Disco. It didn't stand up to the task. I'm on my third Defender now...

    I cant see an issue with having a Defender with some basic, modern safety additions? I don't see how this departs in any way from the 'basic charm of a Defender'?

    Michael
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    November 2014 is the last defender delivered to Perth for good

    There continuing to make them for a few more years but will not be importing them to australia

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike_beecham View Post
    This quote came from Robert's Facebook site (The 4WD Handbook). So it is current I'd expect.
    Ok I get you, I wondered why an 18+ month old book would talk about it!

    Is DSC just more electronics/software? If it's just "smarter" software then I suppose it would be an easy addition to make to the current crop of Defenders even if they are ending shortly after MY15, I mean they would use the same code in other models anyhow.
    MY13 Defender 90 LE "George"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Landy86 View Post
    November 2014 is the last defender delivered to Perth for good


    I'm in the market again where did this info come from


    Cheers Paul

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