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Thread: Problem with front radius arm to axle Superpro bushes

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    My bad Santiago,
    I misread your explanation thinking the bolt man sold you 5/8" bolts.

    You now have the correct M16 in and clunks have gone. Good result.

    This afternoon me and a few mates went for a post cyclone explore up north. Track pretty touched up,with washouts etc etc. The old 130 was clunking away - seems like I need to get some new M16 and Nylocs. These ones just dont hold their tension!

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    You want ~250Nm on Grade 8.8 M16 bolts to ensure they are tight. You won't get that with a spanner. It's 25kg of force on a lever 1 metre long.

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    incase anyone is interested.. these are the torque settings in Nm from my 110 workshop manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flagg View Post
    incase anyone is interested.. these are the torque settings in Nm from my 110 workshop manual.

    That's really good of you, well done Flagg

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    I have recently replaced Most of the bushes with super pro bushes/nalothane

    Just want to say the poly bushes should never be able to rotate in the brackets.

    In fact nalothane advices not to apply grease to the outside of the poly bushes in order to have a better "grip" to the metal bracket.
    Also Grease should only be applied to the inner surface

    However super pro advise to grease up all surfaces Problem with front radius arm to axle Superpro bushes

    The torque required to do up most bolts is 176NM (A frame brackets, a frame ball joint, rear trailing arm etc..
    This is very very tight to the point where the poly bushes are bulged.......

    Also correct me if I am wrong. The factory rubber bushes are not supposed to rotate as well. They rely on the vulcanised rubber to deform to twist.

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    Just to add the torque for puma front radius arm to axle is 210NM so a bit more than the 176NM shown above

    And once again LR did not follow their own manual as mine was only around 100NM. Or maybe they become loose over time.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by martnH View Post
    .......

    Also correct me if I am wrong. The factory rubber bushes are not supposed to rotate as well. They rely on the vulcanised rubber to deform to twist.
    Correct. All movement is taken by flexing of the rubber. This is why it is essential that final tightening be with the suspension in its 'normal' position and loaded, so that the maximum strain in the rubber is minimised. (and to ensure that the inner tube is against the bolt so that normal load is not taken only by end grip)

    This applies to all applications of this type of vulcanised bush. In all types of bush the bolt should be covered with anti seize - nothing to do with the operation of the bush, but to help next time you are working on it!
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