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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    When you blokes say they are ''gone'',what is happening,the diff going pop?. Pat
    Mine are just getting very noisy

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    Rear diffs

    Tieds, Maybe Trivetts are NOT AS ASTOUNDED as they say; as my previous post 1 have had 4 replaced on my 2010 D90 in 60K kms. They are very clever at pretending your problem is unique. Guy's in the LROC Sydney talk to each other and exchange information on faults that have arisen, and we do tell Trivett's Parramatta that we talk and that usually 'slows them down' with the bluffing game they play.

    PAT303; when we say they are 'gone' it is the diff only. Usually under light power/cruising, often between 60 - 80kph you hear a sort of 'singing' noise or soft rattle in the rear of the car; that's the disintegrating diff.

    Hope this helps

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    If there is anyone on the Gold Coast that want to hear what I'm hearing I don't mind taking you for a drive!

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    LOWER BEECHMONT?? I don't go that far for my holidays!! It's a wonder you can even hear the diff over the kids in the back seat. (and no, you cant swap diffs with me!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezyrama View Post
    LOWER BEECHMONT?? I don't go that far for my holidays!! It's a wonder you can even hear the diff over the kids in the back seat. (and no, you cant swap diffs with me!)
    It's debatable at time which nose is worse, the diff or the kids. The kids quieten down eventually I guess. Pity there's no warranty on them though
    Changing the wheels over made it a definite rear diff noise and not the tyres at least

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    My 2012 110 has just started to get noisy in the rear end at 60,000klms. There's been plenty of off-road with a Simpson trip, 4 Fraser ISland trips and numerous local venues. Nothing hardcore off-road and I'm a mechanically sympathetic driver. When the noise started I thought it was wind noise off the new roof platform, but its progressively getting louder from about 80kph.
    One fix I've heard of is fitting an ARB diff lock, anyone had any experience with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Hawes View Post
    My 2012 110 has just started to get noisy in the rear end at 60,000klms. There's been plenty of off-road with a Simpson trip, 4 Fraser ISland trips and numerous local venues. Nothing hardcore off-road and I'm a mechanically sympathetic driver. When the noise started I thought it was wind noise off the new roof platform, but its progressively getting louder from about 80kph.
    One fix I've heard of is fitting an ARB diff lock, anyone had any experience with this?
    Diff lock isn't a fix for a crown /pinion issue - except that fitting a locker gives you a window to do other work on the diff at the same time.

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    Ok a bit of an update... After not having the car for over 2 weeks Land Rover had sent the diff to a diff shop for them to check tolerances and set it up. Turns out the diff was setup to the correct specifics and appeared to be ok.
    So the diff shop changed the crown wheel and pinion and a few seals in it and set it all up. Land Rover put it back in and I picked it up Wednesday.
    I've driven a little over half a tank of fuel and it's getting noisier again. Wasn't at first but is now.
    I've taken it back to Land Rover and have taken one of the mechanics for a drive. He confirmed there is a noise and has advised me that they're going to try and get the engineers from Land Rover in Sydney to fly up and take it for a drive.
    As mentioned about the only thing that hasn't been changed now is the diff housing. But if it was the housing wouldn't it do it at all speeds and not just a little over 100km/h?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danjeffery View Post
    It's debatable at time which nose is worse, the diff or the kids. The kids quieten down eventually I guess. Pity there's no warranty on them though

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    I'm sure it's not going to help - but all of my defenders had 3-4 diffs (except my new 2013 one). The first was a TD5 and had three diffs within the first 40kk's the last diff has been fine and silent for the last 200,000k's.

    My MY09 had 3 diffs before the last one did 80,000ks and then I traded it on my latest Defender.

    That MY13 has a silent rear diff but has already had a failed front diff.

    I don't care if the diff fails again - an Ashcroft upgrade will be impanted asap....


    Out of the seven or more failed diffs,

    - Some failed with a tooth removed from the crown wheel - I assume because the engagement heights were incorrect
    - Some failed with the cross shaft pins breaking or dropping out - the latest failure was due to a missing circlip on the front diff (4 pinion).
    - I've had two fail with noise and silver oil with worn out bearings - after 5,000ks!

    but in each case after a few replacements they finally got one that seemed to be good.


    One interesting observation - Land rover are sometimes very lazy in cleaning out the weld spatter inside the diff housing. (Pull a diff and have a feel in the housing...) I would not be surprised if some of the spatter gets blown around inside the diff - quietly chewing out the bearings and mating surfaces....

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