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    I would be interested to know how Conquers were hardened up for Aus. What do they change? The surely don't re engineer the suspension do they?

    The simplicity/ basic nature of the Metalain suspension is obviously not as sophisticated as the patriot x1 but then neither is the price! Which will I notice more?

    Their website says they are all independent in Oz.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    I would be interested to know how Conquers were hardened up for Aus. What do they change?

    The only change made to to actual suspension on the UEV range are upgrades to taller Dobinson Springs, Tuff Dog shocks and 33" tyres.

    The independent suspension on the 440 (SA Companion) and 490 (SA Commander) really are a massively over engineered. I'll post some pics tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    I would be interested to know how Conquers were hardened up for Aus. What do they change? The surely don't re engineer the suspension do they? The simplicity/ basic nature of the Metalain suspension is obviously not as sophisticated as the patriot x1 but then neither is the price! Which will I notice more? Their website says they are all independent in Oz. Regards Philip A
    But how does that differ to the Africa Conquerer models?

    From my experience in Africa some of the gravel is very good ( southern Namibia) some off the tar is very bad ( eastern cape) and my experience in aus is that the gravel roads here are much the same as African ones if perhaps on average a little better. I suspect it is highly possible that differences between Aus spec and SA spec might actually have more to do with the market ( the legislation, the expectations of consumers, availability of components and the availability of more sophisticated maintenance and or repair providers) than with the environment in which the product is expected to operate.

    As a non trailer user can anyone tell me how much difference in dependant suspension would actually make on a ~600kg trailer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leyland1980 View Post

    As a non trailer user can anyone tell me how much difference in dependant suspension would actually make on a ~600kg trailer?
    I also wonder about this as well esp one a single axle trailer.

    At slow speed all the articulation is done at the tow ball....high speed I'm guessing it's aways the leaf v coil argument for a smooth ride.

    And he's me running defender stubs, hub and callipers using electric over hydraulic actuator.

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    I have both, leaf and independent, (well just sold leaf one), I can't tell the difference with towing, only in the slow rutted you can tell, the independent articulates through the rutts and potholes better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drover View Post
    The independent suspension on the 440 (SA Companion) and 490 (SA Commander) really are a massively over engineered. I'll post some pics tomorrow.
    As pictured the trailing arms on the Conqueror UEV 440's & 490's are massive !




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    Wow Drover that is a beast of a trailer. If only I had the money to buy a 4x4 Daily and whack that trailer on the tray. I would be set I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by voltron View Post
    Wow Drover that is a beast of a trailer. If only I had the money to buy a 4x4 Daily and whack that trailer on the tray. I would be set I think.
    That would be the ultimate off road touring set available ! Comfortable and Capable...

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    Independent Suspension on a 'single axle' trailer is an expensive gimmic IMO... Your trailer is effectively a tripod.. The tow point and each wheel. It would have a purpose of a twin axle trailer but serves no purpose on a single axle trailer. The trailer chassis has to be beefed up so much to carry the suspension arms etc, the wheels have to be tracked, the list goes on. Save you're money and buy a rigid axle trailer with decent length springs that have some flex, and not the short thick solid 'Off Road Springs. Just my opinion having re welded several I.S trailers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sitec View Post
    Independent Suspension on a 'single axle' trailer is an expensive gimmic IMO... Your trailer is effectively a tripod.. The tow point and each wheel. It would have a purpose of a twin axle trailer but serves no purpose on a single axle trailer. The trailer chassis has to be beefed up so much to carry the suspension arms etc, the wheels have to be tracked, the list goes on. Save you're money and buy a rigid axle trailer with decent length springs that have some flex, and not the short thick solid 'Off Road Springs. Just my opinion having re welded several I.S trailers.
    You summed up my thoughts.

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