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Thread: When the Puma was first released

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    "The biggest problem is people don't want to learn how to drive them"

    Yep, I know someone who drives their Puma like they were driving a 300Tdi or the TD5. We had a few 'discussions' about it, on the odd occasion, especially when the subject of sand driving came up. Luckily the car is extremely capable as they were never interested in RTFM....

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    I think that's hit the nail squarly on the head…

    Everywhere else in the world Land Rover offers a free halfway training session at one the their Experience centres. You get to drive one "just like yours" regardless of which model you bought without taking your brand new prove and joy off road. This encourages even the biggest "know it all's" to take up the offer.

    The biggest learning curve by a country mile has always been the Defender guys trading up from a 300Tdi or Td5…(I have to count myself in there as well). Everybody remains of the opinion that they know all there is to know about off road driving - that's until they're shown how to release the full potential from a Tdci Defender.

    All I can say is that I've seen many a dropped jaw…

    Cheers,

    Lou

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    Lou,is there any chance we could get the Perth people together for a show and tell with a Land Rover Experience instructor?,count me in. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loubrey View Post
    I think that's hit the nail squarly on the head…

    Everywhere else in the world Land Rover offers a free halfway training session at one the their Experience centres. You get to drive one "just like yours" regardless of which model you bought without taking your brand new prove and joy off road. This encourages even the biggest "know it all's" to take up the offer.

    The biggest learning curve by a country mile has always been the Defender guys trading up from a 300Tdi or Td5…(I have to count myself in there as well). Everybody remains of the opinion that they know all there is to know about off road driving - that's until they're shown how to release the full potential from a Tdci Defender.

    All I can say is that I've seen many a dropped jaw…

    Cheers,

    Lou
    Um,not really,you should ask someone who has gone from a D1 or D2 to a D3/4.
    A completely different animal,which needs a completely different driving style off road.There is actually no similarity at all between the early Disco's and the D3/4.

    Sure there is a massive difference between the TDci and the earlier deefers,but i recon there is a much bigger difference between the early Disco's and the D3/4.
    At least the deefer is basically the same vehicle,same live axles and coils,but now with a bit of electrikaly,which is the difference.And of course a different engine,gearbox.
    The D3/4 is fully independently sprung,air suspension,and a whole new traction system to learn about,etc.

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    Agree 100% with you scarry, they are 1000 miles apart from the earlier Discos, but people sort of expect and anticipate that. Most people at the Experience Centres are new to the marque and they are just impressed from the start. Land Rover people sort of expect the massive steps that were taken, and if money wasn't an option my choice of kitted out touring vehicle would be a Disco 4 as well.

    Defenders on the other hand look the same as they had since the early 90's and people are reluctant to and in some cases point blank refuse to believe believe newer can be better (this forum point and case :-) )…

    A standard Tdci in trained hands behaves like a different model to an earlier standard Defender and it usually completely throws the sceptics.

    Pat, I'll pm you on options but I would be keen to set it up as well.


    Cheers,

    Lou

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    Lou and Pat

    Count me in if a Defender session becomes available.

    Cheers

    James

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