I agree Pat I would be loathed Toyotas due to my experience with them
The point I was making was will the newly designed Defender just be a masculine looking vehicle to take Tarquin to the Soccer.
With 90% of the Australian population living in the Cities or close rural areas it wont matter from a marketing perspective.

The 4 week trip that some boast about just having done with out any problems is what some do on a daily basis.