Thread: 2016 'Defender'

With all your legitimate concerns over the Defender,my advice is when you travel west take the train. Pat

Originally Posted by PAT303

With all your legitimate concerns over the Defender,my advice is when you travel west take the train. Pat

To much elecktricary in a train Pat, better off in a Series 1

Mmh, I drive a Defendosaur but wonder where this argument will be when all cars are electric? Solar vs coal powered source? Ya can't stop change and evolution and usually it is for the better. Despite all the polution control, etc, etc a new V8 petrol car is getting better economy, power and torque outputs than the famed Phase 3 GTHO Falcons of the early 70's - l make that claim with no data backup but would like to see it refuted with credible evidence and fact.
Nowadays V8's are shutting down various unneeded cylinders for economy - doesn't happen mechanically - it's all computer and electrickery. I'd be happy to have a V10 turboed diesel that shut down unneeded cylinders - would pull like a train and go like a rocket

As I say, My concern is not about electrics per se. It is about long term durability in very harsh environments and servicing outside cities. A solar Defender? Awesome. An expanded LR service network to support it? Awesome.

Originally Posted by PAT303

Have any of you actually been stuck because of the immobiliser?,did you try the push lock button four times then push the unlock button four times to reset it?.Like all ready posted you can buy a Hawk eye or Nanocom that does everything you need this side of a fully fledged workshop,stop complaining and simply buy one if thats what you need. Pat

Yeah once. Flat battery in the fob. Could open the door with the key, set off alarm, but not deactivate immobilizer for lack of.... EKA. Again the complaint is not about presence of electrickery. But lack of ability for LRM or an expensive nanocom Eco to get me my EKA

Fortunately only a short taxi ride a mall where I could get a battery. Then fortunately had internet access to read up the process/steps for battery replacement and resync. (It's not intuitive!)

My comment to MrLandy to "be more worried about the immobilizer" than getting water on your puma - is simply a prompt to prep for these things. Not a complaint that Pumas have such tech.

Good luck pressing buttons 4times on a fob with flat battery, or a damaged fob. If you don't have a spare fob, spare battery, and have memorized or written somewhere the battery replacement steps...Any place where it's not a short taxi ride to help.... Again. Good luck if you are not prepped.

PS: Almost forgot. There was a second incident related to the central locking/alarm/immobilizer. Keys were in the ignition. Engine off. Jumped out for a quick squiz at something. Drivers door closed behind me. Opened a rear door to get something from the back seat. Closed the rear door. Car then locked all doors itself. Very odd. Google and you find others caught with same bug.

Again. Fortunately. Short walk to the spare set of keys. (Yes, Pat303, this one could have been handled if spare keys were not handy...brick to a window, etc...)

Originally Posted by tact

Yeah once. Flat battery in the fob. Could open the door with the key, set off alarm, but not deactivate immobilizer for lack of.... EKA. Again the complaint is not about presence of electrickery. But lack of ability for LRM or an expensive nanocom Eco to get me my EKA

Fortunately only a short taxi ride a mall where I could get a battery. Then fortunately had internet access to read up the process/steps for battery replacement and resync. (It's not intuitive!)

My comment to MrLandy to "be more worried about the immobilizer" than getting water on your puma - is simply a prompt to prep for these things. Not a complaint that Pumas have such tech.

Good luck pressing buttons 4times on a fob with flat battery, or a damaged fob. If you don't have a spare fob, spare battery, and have memorized or written somewhere the battery replacement steps...Any place where it's not a short taxi ride to help.... Again. Good luck if you are not prepped.

PS: Almost forgot. There was a second incident related to the central locking/alarm/immobilizer. Keys were in the ignition. Engine off. Jumped out for a quick squiz at something. Drivers door closed behind me. Opened a rear door to get something from the back seat. Closed the rear door. Car then locked all doors itself. Very odd. Google and you find others caught with same bug.

Again. Fortunately. Short walk to the spare set of keys. (Yes, Pat303, this one could have been handled if spare keys were not handy...brick to a window, etc...)

I appreciate your thinking and thoughtfulness on these issues Tact. Thanks.

Interesting, I've always been very careful not to leave my keys in the car without a window down! Had a hunch it might lock itself! And how ridiculous that the key opening the door doesn't turn alarm off!

I'll be asking Land Rover dealer for my EKA next week, will let you know how I go.

Originally Posted by MrLandy

It gets worse...now we need to learn to steal our own vehicles if we want bush reliability?

I can see a classic British comedy series coming out of this. An episode devoted to the bush breakdown and then finding the section in the handbook on how to hot wire your own car.

Originally Posted by EastFreo

I can see a classic British comedy series coming out of this. An episode devoted to the bush breakdown and then finding the section in the handbook on how to hot wire your own car.

John Cleese beating it with a Mallee branch.... I've warned you before you stupid Land Rover, let me in.