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Thread: Thoughts- GMB Mount- Security bonnet hinges (for hi Lift jack)

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    Technically in a frontal impact the pedestrian would need to be about 9 feet tall to hit the jack mounted there. In an offset impact they would get caught on the tyre before they hit the base plate.
    Those rules are more for normal cars as the door doof crew used to fit pointless scoops to Hyundai exels.

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    I don't use these - our hi-lift is mounted on the back of our roof rack - and I don't want to pee on anyone's party. But I'd be nervous that I'd either smack the windscreen or the bodywork when taking the hi-lift off or putting in on. Guess I'm a woos.

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    Nah Jode I think it's a bad spot too . I'd be concerned with damaging paint as well. It also looks terrible IMHO. But each to their own

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    Yep, it does look pretty terrible mounted where it is,
    However, it's out of the way, it is securely mounted (I think that this is what the Highway Patrol/police were looking at when inspecting the mounts), I don't use a roof rack on this vehicle so cannot mount it on them.

    I don't want a hi lift carrier that mounts on the rear chassis crossmember, I have seen plenty of hi lifts mounted on them, but they all seem to have the jack hanging pretty low down, and with some of the places that I go would get dragged and ripped off pretty quickly.

    I used to have the jack mounted securely inside the vehicle, however now carry to much stuff inside to easily access it quickly if needed.

    The last few times that it has been used was to assist emergency services in an accident where there was limited support available to them and it was required to gain access to a severely damaged vehicle to allow them to treat and remove the passengers.

    I looked into a mount holding the jack vertical at the rear of the vehicle (on the right side rear) but there is not enough room for it with the rear door swinging open and the spare tyre being a 35".
    I don't want a mount coming off the spare tyre for weight and clearance issue reasons.

    ...paintwork, not really worried about that..... It is a 31 year old bush basher......
    Originally it was a 1984 model, 2.25 litre petrol 90. Now updated with a 300TDI and R380, newer doors with wind up windows and other stuff... But damaging the paint is of no concern to me when fitting or removing the jack.

    So at the moment, it works for me.

    With the tyre combination and the suspension setup on the vehicle the jack is nearly five feet above the ground, so unless someone is practising high jumps or is on a pogo stick in front of me, they are unlikely to come into contact with the hi lift jack in the event of an accident.

    Regards,
    Mike.

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    I was wondering if it would be possible to fit a rear ladder on the passenger side and then mount the hi lift jack to the ladder? The ladder and mounts would have to be strong enough of course, but then a ladder is supposed to be able to hold the weight of a person, which is more than a jack. Just a thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I was wondering if it would be possible to fit a rear ladder on the passenger side and then mount the hi lift jack to the ladder? The ladder and mounts would have to be strong enough of course, but then a ladder is supposed to be able to hold the weight of a person, which is more than a jack. Just a thought...

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    I am just about to fit a ladder to mine, so I will see how it could fit and report back.

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    Please considerrrrr...

    Ok I'll keep it short(ish)
    1) I cant think of a worse place to mount this..every kilo above the center of gravity changes handling markedly..thats why I hat seeing them on the roof, as its even worse...


    2) landys flex quite a lot, and having something really heavy higher up, will flex the cab (top half) and will start the horrid water leaking firewall corrosion ect ect..depends how long you plan on having her..


    3) the thing is half useless anyhow, the best thing ive used mine for is lifting the car out of ruts, on the towbar mount, raising it really high, then pushing it over and "walking" it out of the ruts..not fun...these jacks have a long history of damaging paintwork..the plan of using it as a winch is great , until you try it, believe me, unless your using a chain, the rope will stretch and you might get a few clicks out of it, but its not fun.


    4) you hardly ever use one..did I mention they weigh a bit?..that means your dragging about a heavy thing for not real reason, just to look cool..i reckon ive had mine out in anger about a 12 times in as many years..


    if you are going to mount one, I reckon the best place is as low as you can go, and handy, so I put mine on the rear bar, just above the tow ball, acrossways..yeah you have to take off the bottoms plate, but it bounces about like hell anyhow.( mine lives with all the other jacks undedr the drivers seat) .and you should have a large plate to mount it on too, really handy in the mud, (400x 400 checker plate) and SWL bow shackles to poke through the eyes on the beam of the jack..and a chain..


    I will try n take a pic..its a heaps better place IMHO and all you need is a shifter to undo the nuts (they go though the large round holes in the bumper..


    oh the bonus is that the heavy steel acts like a "Japanese car impact absorber" so you car remains unscathed...PERFECT

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    G'day, DEPENDER,
    You make a few good comments there in your post....
    I'll give a response to some of them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DEPENDER View Post
    Ok I'll keep it short(ish)
    1) I cant think of a worse place to mount this..every kilo above the center of gravity changes handling markedly..thats why I hat seeing them on the roof, as its even worse...

    fair enough, I don't want the extra weight higher up, that's why I mounted it on the firewall/bonnet (rather than mount it on roof racks) as I don't have much room inside due to work tools and equipment.
    The original bonnet had a spare tyre on it that was a lot heavier than the jack.


    2) landys flex quite a lot, and having something really heavy higher up, will flex the cab (top half) and will start the horrid water leaking firewall corrosion ect ect..depends how long you plan on having her..
    Yep, agree with you on this, but as noted above the spare tyre/wheel as fitted originally was a lot heavier, and also would have caused more flex than the jack....

    3) the thing is half useless anyhow, the best thing ive used mine for is lifting the car out of ruts, on the towbar mount, raising it really high, then pushing it over and "walking" it out of the ruts..not fun...these jacks have a long history of damaging paintwork..the plan of using it as a winch is great , until you try it, believe me, unless your using a chain, the rope will stretch and you might get a few clicks out of it, but its not fun.
    Half useless.... Maybe, but without it a fella would have died from blood loss due to being trapped in his vehicle unless the jack was used to allow access to his severely mangled vehicle and get him out and staunch the blood flow until the ambulance got there. They sometimes have their uses.
    Paintwork, as noted previously is the least of my worries.
    I also carry two bottle jacks, spare winch rope, a few (properly) rated drag chains, ground anchors, and other assorted recovery gear, I don't rely on the hi lift as a "does everything emergency aid".


    4) you hardly ever use one..did I mention they weigh a bit?..that means your dragging about a heavy thing for not real reason, just to look cool..i reckon ive had mine out in anger about a 12 times in as many years..
    Fair point about hardly ever used, however it's part of the gear that I'm happy carrying around. It's not there to look cool, but is just a piece of equipment that suits a purpose for which it sometimes gets used for.

    if you are going to mount one, I reckon the best place is as low as you can go, and handy, so I put mine on the rear bar, just above the tow ball, acrossways..yeah you have to take off the bottoms plate, but it bounces about like hell anyhow.( mine lives with all the other jacks undedr the drivers seat) .and you should have a large plate to mount it on too, really handy in the mud, (400x 400 checker plate) and SWL bow shackles to poke through the eyes on the beam of the jack..and a chain..

    Yep, agree with you on this about mounting as low as possible, however until I see a better place fit for my purposes (or Mr Plod tells me it cannot be mounted there) it will stay.

    I will try n take a pic..its a heaps better place IMHO and all you need is a shifter to undo the nuts (they go though the large round holes in the bumper..

    Interested in seeing your mountings, always like having a look at what other people come up with (and a lot of the time pinching/borrowing their ideas too).

    oh the bonus is that the heavy steel acts like a "Japanese car impact absorber" so you car remains unscathed...PERFECT
    fair enough, good point!
    However with the long travel suspension and monster truck tyres, if I have an accident with another vehicle, I hope to just go airborne over the top of them....(just come home from the movies, watched Fast and Furious 7.....)


    Regards,
    Mike.

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    This has given me an idea where to put my Mantex sand tracks, start with the GMB hinges, & a custom bracket to mount the Mantex

    What do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyG View Post
    This has given me an idea where to put my Mantex sand tracks, start with the GMB hinges, & a custom bracket to mount the Mantex

    What do you think?
    G'day AndyG,
    Are your sand tracks the shiny metal ones?
    Might get a fair amount of sun light reflected off them unless painted or covered.

    Mike.

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