Reply With QuoteI'd think you'll find if you manufacture something yourself it will need to be engineered certified for compliance purposes.
Master
SubscriberG'day all,
Sorry, as I know this general topic has almost been done to death, but I can't seem to find anything specifically addressing this.
I want to put my child's seat in my (five seater) 110 Puma, and I'm obviously interested in doing so safely so am investigating the usual options such as CRABs, etc., but I can't help thinking that this is all over the top.
What I'd love to do is fabricate something (steel strap?) to fit to the rear of the Milford cargo barrier at approximately the same height as the seats, and to then fit the supplied anchor point to that. Given the loads that the cargo barrier is meant to take, is there any reason why that would not be a perfectly sound solution?
Cheers,
James
Wizard
I'd think you'll find if you manufacture something yourself it will need to be engineered certified for compliance purposes.
Master
SubscriberYeah, so I guess what I'm asking is whether or not this could be considered a solid enough solution to satisfy an engineer. Assuming of course that I can find an independent engineer rather than someone who just wants to sell me parts and labour for the 'professional' version.
And certification is only required for insurance purposes, right?
A Keeper of the TGO
The question I'd ask is do you think the Milford barrier is mounted securely enough to hold your child's seat securely if it's involved in an accident?
Barriers only stop items moving forward generally, I don't think they are designed for sideways twisting such as rollovers.
We had a CRAB bar and seperate cargo barrier made up to suit our draw set up.
With the aim of stealing our grandson for weekends it wasn't some thing I was prepared to do wrong.
Certification to me=registration, insurance, piece of mind.
Master
If it helps with your choices mine is a fabricated bar that follows the shape, and mounts above, the rear door. It bolts into existing points, only need minor cuts to the trim. The restraint belt does run through the load space but high up so out of the way unless you are loading to the ceiling. Fully engineered, Daniel (Mulgo) made it for us, very happy with it
Simon
Master
I have a vague recollection of someone using their cargo barrier for a child restraint. Let me see if I can find the thread ...
Master
Here's the thread http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members-ri...ml#post1075403
Cheers
Sean
Could a restraint anchor be bolted to the floor using an existing bolt for the seat? Just a thought...
A Keeper of the TGO
I asked this and got told the internal seat frame is not strong enough,Originally Posted by DiscoMick
It would be a far cheaper option.
There was a thread of an internal plate being wield into the seat frame.
The trim was modified so the child anchor bolt could bolt into the plate.
A Sydney based firm from memory.
Ranga's(Mojo's link) looks like a CRAB bar with a barrier added, quite a neat idea.
Master
SubscriberThanks for the help so far guys. Sean, I appreciate the link. I was thinking of something a lot more rudimentary, so that's some good food for thought.
I've done some investigating with various places around the Perth area, and the advice so far has been that a CRAB is the only option. I take that with a grain of salt given that each Type 2 Fitter also happens to be a vendor and has a vested interest in getting you to go for the (up to, so far) $1300 option.
Alien, I get what you're saying about peace of mind, but I was really just looking at hypotheticals. I'm not one to swallow the first thing I hear on a topic, and ultimately I would probably get something 'engineered' anyway, but I was after some advice on what would work, regs aside. I could then chase certification on my solution later (and before putting it to use).
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