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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Nice photos.
    I see your front springs are HD from LR. Do they make the ride stiff? Did you consider if medium springs could have achieved similar results with a softer ride?
    Unfortunately I can't take the credit for the photos

    With about 100Kg of bullbar and winch on the front, the HD springs provide a ride that is similar to a Defender on standard springs with no bullbar and no winch. The standard springs are about 175 lb/in and the HD springs are about 225 lb/in.

    I actually have some figures on the ride height... These measurements were taken on my 2011 110 Wagon (not the 2013 wagon in the photos). All figures are for the bumpstop clearance on the front driver's side:

    • Upon delivery (no accessories at all): 72mm
    • 2 weeks later after installation of Bullbar & winch: 50mm (-22mm)
    • 4 months later: 44mm (-28mm)
    • After installation of HD springs: 91mm (+19mm)

    According to the workshop manual, the design range for front bump stop clearance is 57mm to 87mm. So, once I had installed the bull bar and winch the car was 13mm below the design range. Upon installation of the HD springs, the clearance became 4mm over the design range, so by the time the HD springs had settled in (sagged a bit) it would have been just within the design range...

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    Quote Originally Posted by csb4x4 View Post
    Thanks for the advice re sticking with the LR suspension and putting the HD springs in. Researched the forum afterwards and got my head around the lift issues on the puma's and the need for the DC prop shaft....definitely don't want to screw up my warranty etc just yet.
    So since then I have been trying to find photo's of a 110 with standard suspension and 255/85 muddies....have found lots of threads on the topic but no definite photos.
    Does anyone out there have a photo showing wheel arch clearance (side on shot) with this type of a set up?
    Here you go. Stock standard suspension. No heavy bullbar/winch etc. fitted with 255/85 Maxxis Bighorn. Factory Boost Alloy rims. No spacers, no mods to fit these tyres at all and - no rubbing even at full flex. Just took the vehicle and brand new tyres to workshop and asked them to pull off the 235/85 and fit the 255/85.
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    Another angle..
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    ...and one more showing still nicely legally within the flares
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    Awsome - thanks for the pics all....255's it is then. Most of the off-road work I do is in the Vic high country (I'm lucky enough to live close by) so a set of nice muddies comes in handy.....to answer one of the earlier comments, yes - I'm going to throw a bit of coin at the truck....it's both a hobby and a passion for me (i.e boys toys)....so sometimes practical common sense will go out the window - and let's face it....I want it to look cool!! I'm still trying to remain a little smart about my choices though. Thus the decision to delay any lifting and get familiar with the truck before committing to that path....thanks again for the feedback. It's much appreciated...amazing how much info is on this forum!!

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    Just to back up what others also said: I have been down some rough trails in the Malaysian jungles back when my barge was new & still stock standard, AT tyres and all. (Mine is 2yrs old now). What these vehicles can do in show room trim is pretty cool.

    One particular trip comes to mind - it had mud, boulders, ruts and rivers. I followed the lifted and locked barges with 35" tyres and THEY were surprised I kept up.

    I made some early mistakes (not keeping an eye on a CDL that had a habit of slipping to unlocked) and got stuck in easy spots. Later I got it tho - watched the CDL light. Back in the city sent it to be fixed (warranty).

    Around the campfire later a few asked "yeah! How come you got stuck on easy stuff but clean swept thru the real hard stuff down the trail...?" They all expected the landy to fail badly on the hard parts. The big boys with their lockers and 35" tyres were valve bouncing and doing repeat charges to clear some obstacles that I putt-putted through on idle.

    Had to own up to their question tho - my first landy and not so familiar with it.

    I wrote a trip report on here somewhere. Search for Sg. Bil
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    With a bullbar and winch on the front, I assume George has dropped a bit, although its not that obvious. I've been looking at the Terrafirma Pro Sport medium kit for George, which is said to offer a lift of up to 50mm, with extended shocks for longer than standard travel. There is also a Terrafirma All Terrain kit which keeps the height close to standard. Undecided at this stage. All I know is several installers recommend the Pro Sports. Anyone tried it?

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    Dressed up

    Here's some photo's with some of the mods now in place. List so far includes APT sliders, Rijidij wheel carrier, Safari snorkel, ARB bullbar, LED spotties, roof rack, awning, Frontrunner rear ladder, LR HD front springs and BFG 255/85 MT's.
    Had a good 2 days on the track this weekend and still can't take the smile off my face.
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    Looking good. Thumbs Up.

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