Thread: A sad Day. Goodby Deefer.

Originally Posted by jackdef90

I dont really get it, its a turbo hose, this is a minor problem. Just buy a set of silicones, and have a good hard look at how you secure them.



The problems youve had are nothing major, **** happens cars breakdown and you need to fix them.

Yeah but should they fail in the first place????? But accepting it you are accepting non fit for purpose......

I switched from a defender to a non Land Rover ...... 40 000k and not a spanner has touched it.....and it gotten me everywhere my defer did......sadly without the style of a defer

Originally Posted by Marty90

Sorry if you misunderstood James.You said the front bar under the engine was damaged and rusty in the showroom.A split intercooler indicates frontal collision also.I'd be getting it assessed by an independent LR specialist to see if damage was done on the front due to impact. In which case it would've been done in transit to the showroom.Why else would the bar be damaged and rusty?

Because it's a piece of **** from the factory????

James like Pickles I joined the forum about the same time as you with the purchase of a new MY13 90 it has had the turbo recall and the oil pump recall but other than that no issues..........except it had limited carrying capacity unless you remove the rear seats.
On the strength of this vehicle I found a MY13 130 in a car yard new in 2014 I negotiated a good deal because it was old stock,same price as 90 it also has had the two above mentioned recalls but but no other issues (albeit it had to go twice for turbo hose as I imagine some apprentice didnt tighten hose clamps correctly the first time)

Both vehicles are daily drives for my wife and myself and I get my servicing by mechanics I know every 10,000k not the stealership, they check fluid levels in drive train at these services as well as LR book services.

Sorry to read about you bad run you must be so disapointed. In this forum there are lots of Puma owners happy with there purchases...........but there are some...........horror stories

I went against the tide and went from Ford Ranger to LR a bit more seat of the pants but we love driving our vehicles

Good luck into the future what ever you decide and have a good Xmas

Cheers Paul

I agree that not all dealerships/mechanics are equal.
I've spoken to a friend with a RRV, he kept taking back to a certain dealership with an issue that was happening over and over again. He finally took it to a different one and they sorted it straight away. Never an issue again.
Day/night difference.
I feel for you mate!

I'm hearing you on this one, my 130 has a blown motor, cracked piston, 2013, 75,000km on it. It's been idle in the dealership since 24th November.
I have earthmoving equipment involved in bushfire works, and I haven't got a ute.. Hired another ute to go to a fire today, got stuck, crap piece of equipment with a load on it, and still I don't even know if LR will warrant my motor.. Pretty sure I'll end up with a cruiser ute as I've almost lost faith in my 130s ability to get me into and out of the **** when I'm in a fire fighting situation.. Still running 4 defender tray tops with plus 300,000km with no issues.. Old school still works..

James, try Trivett @ Parramatta. They were awesome to deal with when I had my MY12 and boy did that have some warranty issues, I drove the Range Rover they gave me longer than my Defender ha ha ha (slight exaggeration)

They were very good with their service and had two good techs there. One a young bloke Ben who owns a Defender and knows them inside out and knows their History.

I too sold my MY12 and went for the Colorado not the Ranger. But guess where I am right now, back here doing it all over again. I think you might regret the decision to out on your Deefer, I know it can be a little frustrating with all the problems but predominantly they are the same issues each time.

There is a saying-
"if you keep doing what you have been doing and expect a different result, that's called insanity "
So change dealers or go to a LR Specialist.
DPL Bruce Davis is closer again for you, Annangrove Rd Annangrove. I really don't think you would have a reoccurring problem after seeing him.

Now if your buried in finance with your Deefer then keeping it might be your best option, just get past this hose issue and it will be reliable. At least at the end of your finance term the Deefer will still look the same, any other car will look tired and outdated. A hasty decision you might regret later.

And don't get caught up on the warranty crap, there are heaps of OEM parts that get replace and bang out again, because they are not suited. It is what it is.
Diffs etc just replace them with the Ashcrofts and alike and you won't have the problem ever again. So go replace your hoses with Silicons through someone like DPL and get LR to cover the labour on the invoice. It can be done.

And if you haven't spoken to an independent Specialist then there is the biggest part of your problems. Your expectations out of your dealer are way too high. The dealer mechanics just follow the book.

After you get your rig to a specialist let us all know how you go, it costs nothing for them to have a look.

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Originally Posted by Babs

And don't get caught up on the warranty crap, there are heaps of OEM parts that get replace and bang out again, because they are not suited. It is what it is.
Diffs etc just replace them with the Ashcrofts and alike and you won't have the problem ever again. So go replace your hoses with Silicons through someone like DPL and get LR to cover the labour on the invoice. It can be done.

I don't really like this argument, because the OEM units should be fit for purpose. How expensive would it be it you had to replace all these things with aftermarket items just to get reliability. It should be reliable with OEM components.

From a few of the recent posts, it seems like it may have been 'dropped' prior to delivery. Interesting theory....

Hello James,


Sorry to hear your story.

There has been some excellent advice given by other members and I sincerely hope things work out for you, whatever decision you make.

In life, some people do the right thing, and others do not! Your Customer service manager has clearly not! Your vehicle issues are not rocket science, they're all perfectly achievable and should have been rectified a longtime ago, end of story.

It the interest of other members, what wonderful establishment were you dealing with?


Good luck.