Oil colour after service?

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Originally Posted by PAT303

Alec,show me an LR engine destroyed because of dirty oil and I'll show you 50 destroyed because of a split rad hose,failed viscous hub,blocked rad core ;). Pat

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lol ohhhhh soooo true....

Regards
Daz

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Originally Posted by Eevo

i can show you a bmw engine destroyed by dirty oil.
20,000km service intervals

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Highly likely, after all its like all german made cars.... its a ****box...

and now VW has showed not only are they crap grossly over engineered, oil leaking ****, they also cant be trusted....

Its just a pity the Japanese motor industry didnt drive them all to the wall...

Regards
Daz

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

Highly likely, after all its like all german made cars.... its a ****box...

and now VW has showed not only are they crap grossly over engineered, oil leaking ****, they also cant be trusted....

Its just a pity the Japanese motor industry didnt drive them all to the wall...

Regards
Daz

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BMW make good cars imho.
owned two and regret selling

jap cars have been hit n miss for me.

This thread is in response to the OP's entirely legitimate query about oil changes. It's not about engine failures caused by overheating or anything else. It's also got nothing to do with oneupmanship. ...What happened to no question is wrong here?

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Originally Posted by PAT303

Alec,show me an LR engine destroyed because of dirty oil and I'll show you 50 destroyed because of a split rad hose,failed viscous hub,blocked rad core ;). Pat

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I don't have to show you anything Pat. I'm not disputing anything you have said and simply put down something I do to keep my engine clean every few oil changes. Inferring that I don't consider other aspects of maintenance from that is just plain stupid. Take your tone elsewhere.

New gear box, transfer case, power steering, ALL plumbing/intercooler hoses, front and rear pinion seals, new front rotors, bearings and pads all round, front swivels serviced and 1 replace, clutch, water pump and housing replaced, welsh plug behind water pump, new rad, new viscous fan, intercooler, turner head, all driveline lubes every 2 yrs, clutch slave, fuel lines and more.

Don't talk to me about bloody maintenance.

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Originally Posted by AlecW

Yes well most of the oil flush products are kerosene based and it all runs straight through to the sump plug hole, gets a lot of residue out. After pouring a little spec oil through afterwards I doubt it would cause any problems. This is a 300tdi after all....

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The problem with the Tdi is that IIRC about 500ml of old oil is retained just in the sump as the drain port is higher than the bottom of the sump.

I actually did a drain years ago, then dropped the sump and measured the remaining fluid. It's substantial, which is why I won't use a flush other than fresh oil.

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Originally Posted by PAT303

Alec,show me an LR engine destroyed because of dirty oil and I'll show you 50 destroyed because of a split rad hose,failed viscous hub,blocked rad core ;). Pat

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Originally Posted by rick130

The problem with the Tdi is that IIRC about 500ml of old oil is retained just in the sump as the drain port is higher than the bottom of the sump.

I actually did a drain years ago, then dropped the sump and measured the remaining fluid. It's substantial, which is why I won't use a flush other than fresh oil.

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I simply pour a little bit through to grab a little residue, it does not cycle through the engine. Jack up the front end and a lot of it comes out, then pour some fresh oil through. No biggy

For the OP,
If you paid for it, and it wasn't done, seek your satisfaction.
The onus would be on you to prove otherwise.
Surely with your pre-driving checks you would have notices that the oil got significantly cleaner after the service?

I've seen some dirty oil in my time, and yours looks OK IMO.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

BMW make good cars imho.
owned two and regret selling

jap cars have been hit n miss for me.

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I've yet to see a german engine that didnt leak oil, the worst being BMW X5 diesel, BMW engines in Range Rovers, Merc engines in Jeeps, VW engines in Jeeps, even the Merc Ambulances I used to work on leaked oil.

And they typically balls up simply service items such as changing air filters, fuel filters, checking fluid levels...

By contrast, Japanese vehicles such as Toyotas generally have good R & D and if they think you might have to service something they make it easy to remove.

Regards
Daz

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Originally Posted by AlecW

I don't have to show you anything Pat. I'm not disputing anything you have said and simply put down something I do to keep my engine clean every few oil changes. Inferring that I don't consider other aspects of maintenance from that is just plain stupid. Take your tone elsewhere.

New gear box, transfer case, power steering, ALL plumbing/intercooler hoses, front and rear pinion seals, new front rotors, bearings and pads all round, front swivels serviced and 1 replace, clutch, water pump and housing replaced, welsh plug behind water pump, new rad, new viscous fan, intercooler, turner head, all driveline lubes every 2 yrs, clutch slave, fuel lines and more.

Don't talk to me about bloody maintenance.

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You asked a question,I answered it,if you don't like the answer you got do your own search,it's all on here.To the original question about dirty oil there's always old oil in the engine that contaminates the new stuff the moment you start it. Pat